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To: LindyBill who wrote (123224)7/4/2005 11:07:10 AM
From: Bridge Player  Respond to of 793885
 
. As Mr. Powell shows so well in Wilson's War, the only certain impact of needless warmaking is enormous tragedy.

Needless is one of those words whose meaning is "in the eyes of the beholder", precisely the source of the public relations battle that Bush is so engaged in today.



To: LindyBill who wrote (123224)7/4/2005 12:14:15 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 793885
 
Wilson's War

I watched Powell's presentation of his book to a panel at the Cato Institute on CSPAN last week. At first, listening to his description of his findings, I was very excited by the book.

But after listening to his responses to the questions, I realized that he doesn't really argue that Wilson and/or US intervention caused the events he describes, just poses our staying out as a counterfactual. If we has stayed out, would events have been different?

My biggest disappointment is that he doesn't address excellent evidence that nobody offered the 14 points to Germany in order to get them to surrender. The Germans read about the 14 points in newspapers and assumed (or claimed that they assumed) that it was intended for them, as well, which is a very weak argument. In fact, the German offensive just crumbled, due to riots and mutinies, so the Germans were looking for an excuse or a scapegoat for the end of the war.

Also, he blames the onerous terms put to Germany in the Treaty of Versailles on Wilson, which is simply untrue.



To: LindyBill who wrote (123224)7/4/2005 1:34:55 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793885
 
It seems profoundly unfair to blame Wilson for the harsh measures of the Treaty of Versailles, which were not his doing, but France and England's.