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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (37561)	7/4/2005 11:09:30 PM
From: Jagfan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

What of the Trojan War (circa 1200 BC)? Wasn't that was a woman's fault? ;)

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (37561)	7/5/2005 10:30:41 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

I'm not sure that's what he meant. Perhaps his point had something to do with historical grudges between nations, perceived injustices in history that one or the other nation is trying to rectify, or alliances formed or treaties signed in response to some historical conflict that contribute to the igniting of the next conflict (which happened repeatedly in Europe). I haven't read the quote in context, but if that's what he meant, it's a similar meaning, then, to Beccaria's "Happy is a nation without a history." In a similar vein, Hegel wrote of America as being at an advantage in part because it was free of the baggage of European history (at least as I read it) - "America is, therefore the land of the future, where, in the ages that lie before us, the burden of the World’s history shall reveal itself. It is a land of desire for all those who are weary of the historical lumber-room of Old Europe." PS: Speaking of Thucydides, he said of history that it "is philosophy teaching by examples."