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To: Moominoid who wrote (65950)	7/5/2005 12:15:32 PM
From: shades	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

"I did some online test that said I had an IQ of 158. But another one said 140 or less. So there isn't much consistency there " Those online tests are not accepted, I would score in the 170's on them on average, so I got cocky and took the real tests - and I only got 135 on the one where Marilyn got 200+ and SHO was unmeasurable (stanford-binet I believe) - they give you a few different tests though to make sure you just didn't get lucky on one. The group of people I took the real tests with also told me later the real test score was lower than the online scores. Those online tests give you more time to figure the problems than you get on the real tests, I didn't finish some of the advanced logic problems because I ran out of time on the real tests. It helped me taking those tests though, the chinese lady deemed I was worthy of dating her daughters when I got in the geek club and human resources at a few companies seem to like it too - that or my dashing good looks - I don't know - hehe. Here is where I must agree with you and pearly button, the chinese lady was giving her kids real tests from 4 years old, my score was my first attempt. I only got 1310 on my SAT as well - also my first attempt at the real test. I knew this multi millionaire who trained kids how to make high scores on these tests to get them in the doors - they would take hundreds of practice tests - while this made them good test takers - I think it cheated what the test was intended to measure. He showed me with repeated test taking and his methods you get better and can increase your scores fairly substantially. They should design tests to account for this and prevent this. eskimo.com One of the Omni readers who scored highest on the Mega Test was John H. Sununu, then the governor of New Hampshire, and later Chief of Staff under President Bush. His score of 44 correct gave him an estimated I.Q. of 180 (achievable by approximately one in 3 million). Marilyn vos Savant scored 46 (I.Q. of 186) on her first attempt. Two others have scored 46 on their first attempt (Note that Ron now specifies that only one attempt is allowed). About 3 people have scored 47, but only on a second attempt. This includes Eric Hart. "Eric Hart" turned out to be a pseudonym for an individual who scored 42 on his first attempt of the Mega Test [Ron Hoeflin, in a letter to me, made the distinction between first and second attempts of Eric Hart]. About 3 people have scored 45 right, including Steve Schuessler (who worked at NASA). Sununu's score of 44 has been tied by 3 or 4 other people so far, including Rick Rosner, who edited the Mega Society journal, Noesis. Of the three highest scores (46 right), two are women. Now MOO whatever these tests measure, Vos Savant seems to always do well on them far above her peers. I do not think if she retook the test now she would score anywhere near her old score - as the aggregate levels in the population change you would move down if the aggregate level went up. Also she is older now and there have been studies showing after the mid 30's you kinda peak on these particular tests. I do not feel I could achieve the scores on the SAT or real IQ tests I took back when I was younger - been out of college and that environment far too long. Getting out here in the real world made me dumberer - hehe - you are blessed MOO. It is great to be on the campus with minds not so spoiled by reality and still full of optimism and creativity. Bill Gates said his greatest success was surrounding himself with really bright and inventive people.