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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: goldworldnet who wrote (690092)	7/5/2005 12:11:05 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 769670

The smearvets lied about that too. Kerry's congressional testimony was very bhonorable and courageous if you listen to the whole thing. The smearvets picked out a few shocking lines and made it sound like Kerry was blaming troops for atrocities. In fact he was saying just the opposite, that the policy-makers and their free-fire zone "burn down the hootches" body-count mentality had created a war environment where troops were being encouraged to commit war crimes. The smearvets lied about the atrocities too. Atrocities were rampant in those days, and the worst of them were committed during the CIA's Phoenix Program where SpecOps were used as assassins and "terrorists" taking out suspected VC villagers with extreme prejudice, sometimes be-heading the victims because in Buddhist lore a be-headed corpse cannot reach Nirvana. All true testimonies from the SpecOps guys themselves which Kerry was merely relaying and reporting. Kerry's own boat committed one atrocities, gunner Gardner taking out two innocent civilians. Gardenr is the only smearvet who ever served on aboat with John Kerry, though he was not on the boat at any of JK's medals events. 35 years later Kerry said he wishes he had toned down his rhetoric a bit, but he was not lying or attacking troops, on the contrary. he was trying to save troops lives by stopping the madness.

To: goldworldnet who wrote (690092)	7/5/2005 12:16:44 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Your right Goldie. The military expects it's heros to NEVER admit mistakes or doubt the mission, no matter how lunatic, misguided or just flat wrong. "Mine is not to reason why, mine is but to do or die." This thinking brought us Vietnam, and now Iraq. With all the concern on the right for what the Founders intended, it's convieniently forgotten that the Founders NEVER intended us to have a standing army. They knew that a standing army was a temptation to empire-build for the venal politician. And as for the army itself, it's what they DO - how could they possibly be against it? fff.org