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To: CalculatedRisk who wrote (26686)	7/6/2005 10:51:15 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 360934

Charlie Rose has some interesting guests tonight...fyi... boards.charlierose.com "Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything" Co-authors STEVEN LEVITT & STEPHEN DUBNER FRANCIS FUKUYAMA Historian & Author

To: CalculatedRisk who wrote (26686)	7/6/2005 11:47:40 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 360934

Three pertinent points ____________________________________________ thecarpetbaggerreport.com Three pertinent points: A. A federal perjury charge against Rove or any other "senior administration officials" requires corroboration by two people, which I assume would be Miller and Cooper (and/or Novak if he sang like the scum pond bird he is). Their notes are not sufficient, nor are the waivers by Rove and Libby. Fitzgerald needs actual testimony to make out perjury and/or obstruction of justice charges against the leakers and cover-up-ers. B. Miller and/or Cooper may themselves be "subjects" of the Fitzgeral investigation, and of course needs them to testify, should they choose to do so, to get their side of the story. C. As to why Miller and Cooper might continue to refuse to testify in spite of the sources' waivers of confidentiality, it has nothing to do with upholding journalistic standards, and EVERYTHING to do with their criminal culpability in (1) facilitating the outing of Plame; (2) facilitating the cover-up of whomever outed Plame; and/or (3) they have a lot of "relevant skeletons" in their closets that would be fair game to the prosecutor when Miller and Cooper get sworn in. And IF they choose to answer even one question before the grand jury, they waive their 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination as to ALL questions — which would open them up to all sorts of legal do-do that they likely want to be left in the dark. I suspect that, when all is said and done, at least Miller and Novak, and likely Cooper, too, will be indicted along with some "officials" inside the White House. Rove and Libby offering their waivers of confidentiality are empty gestures, since they know that Miller and Cooper can only place themselves in more jeopardy by testifying than they do by maintaining their silence. Comment by Analytical Liberal — 7/6/2005 @ 1:04 pm

To: CalculatedRisk who wrote (26686)	7/7/2005 12:07:11 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 360934

It was fascinating to listen to an old nearly dead warhorse like Daniel Shorr attempt to obfuscate the issue on NPR's All Things Overconsidered tonight. Shorr proved that he's been bought. That he is now nothing but a mere shadow of the man he used to be. He came out championing criminal behavior. He supported the insufferable Judith Miller in her attempts to still be of service to the Evil Empire by refusing to cooperate in outing Karl Rove as the most malignant worm in America today. Miller has been a great soldier for fascism. After her pseudo-reporting on her "anthrax scare", she was the principle print prima donna posturing for the WMD story. She's involved in another scam today. She's decided that she can be a martyr for the free press, while she willfully destroys America. She's a whore for the Empire, and willing to go to jail in a fantastical illusion about press perogatives. She is evil incarnate. Karl Rove destroyed a CIA covert op for the sake of furthering his despicable goal of destroying America. Miller is a willing and well paid accomplice. And Daniel Shorr is beyond pathetic. He's now into the realm of criminal co-conspirator: npr.org Shorr should be ashamed, being a willing accomplice in a cover-up of a major crime against America perpetrated by the Bush Crime Family.