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To: Keith Feral who wrote (165593)	7/8/2005 6:20:12 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"I don't think that anyone should go to jail for providing the press with information" You don't even understand the situation. The act of 'providing the press with information' IS THE CRIME. You're saying that no one should go to jail for committing a crime as long as it was a crime committed while talking to a reporter? That's utter nonsense. We do not know what the prosecutor knows but apparently it's serious enough that the judges agreed to get the information out of Miller and Cooper. Besides, Cooper received a pass to testify before the grand jury and apparently Miller did as well although that's not clear. Cooper chose, therefore, to testify. Why shouldn't he? He received a pass. The question is, why didn't Miller? If she received a pass (as it looks like she did) but decided to go to jail instead of testifying before a grand jury, that's HER CHOICE. Do you think reporters are, in 100% of cases when they're reporting on something, above the law? The commentator from the Chicago Tribune, debating with Miller's boss, said that in 98% of the cases protection would apply. He also said that Miller SHOULD NOT HAVE given an agreement of confidentiality in this case. He agreed with the judge because of the seriousness of the case and the apparent inability to get the information any other way. The guy from the NYTimes clearly could not defend the position of his paper. He hemmed and hawed and looked pretty ridiculous. ======= Where is classified information being passed around like candy? Where? If you see it, why aren't you calling the FBI?

To: Keith Feral who wrote (165593)	7/8/2005 6:21:43 PM
From: illyia	Respond to of 281500

Okay I unignored you. What Rove is doing is using the weapons of personal destruction to get whatever power his fantasy self (Big League Bush and his Jock-Boy cool) needs in order to take his secret satisfaction at being "the power behind the throne." He is a rascal, although, up to now, not a coward. We shall see if he can "take the bright shining light of truth, cast upon himself." I doubt that he could stand the bright light, so he must desire to dim it. That is the play I would look for now. Just dim the lights and no one can see you... now how will he do that? Stay tuned... Meanwhile, Rove has played with everyone's lives for the sake of political expediency... fine if you're a one-shot pony - fighting a short sighted war for immediate gratification... but not fine for a nation built of generations... stretching for hundreds of years. It is Rove's need for immediate gratification that will be his down-fall. He may be brilliant, but he is brilliant in the very thing that makes all politicians vulnerable to insurrection: Fakery. The ready-fix is rarely the real fix for the problem, and if you fix-the-facts to hide the real state of affairs, you are just one down on an already losing proposition. So discuss without name-calling, 'cause I'm onto that... it's just a distraction tactic. Peace through Peace, i.