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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: steve harris who wrote (35675)	7/9/2005 8:30:22 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 93284

Liar. Downing Street Memos Are The Real Thing. If they had been in any way faked, Tony Blair wouldn't be trying to spin their meaning. Tony knows they're real, and they are, yet the Bushie rightwing has gone to work spreading the myth that they're not real. Despite zero evidence. Just another complete Bushie fabrication. There's also plenty of other evidence backing up the fact Bushies lied about pre-war intel and manipulated it to their heart's content, thereby lying to the American people and congress. LONDON -- British Prime Minister Tony Blair said Wednesday the "Downing Street memos" paint a distorted picture, and he insisted that the Iraq war was not predetermined by the United States. "People say the decision was already taken. The decision was not already taken," he said in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press. Blair added he was "a bit astonished" at the intensive U.S. media coverage about the leaked memos, which actually were leaked minutes of a July 23, 2002, meeting between Blair and top government officials at his Downing Street office. According to the minutes of the meeting, Sir Richard Dearlove, then chief of Britain's intelligence service, said the White House viewed military action against Saddam Hussein as inevitable following the Sept. 11 attacks. President George W. Bush "wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD," read the memo, seen by the AP. "But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." In the interview, Blair said raising such concerns was a natural part of any examination of the cause for war. "The trouble with having a political discussion on the basis of things that are leaked is that they are always taken right out of context. Everything else is omitted from the discussion and you end up focusing on a specific document," he said. "It would be absolutely weird if, when the Iraq issue was on the agenda, you were not constantly raising issues, trying to work them out, get them in the right place," he said. Details of the memos appeared in British newspapers last month but the news in Britain quickly turned to the May 5 election that returned Blair to power. In the United States, however, the revelations raised criticism among opponents of the Bush administration. "I am a bit astonished at how this has received such coverage in the U.S. because the fact is, after the memo was done, we went to the United Nations," Blair said. "What people forget about that memo is that that (it) occurred nine months before the conflict. ... So whatever issues there were, we resolved them ultimately by saying we have got to give it one last chance to work peacefully." Blair also said it was "vitally important" for coalition troops to remain in Iraq "until the job is done." "That is vitally important. If we defeat these insurgents and terrorists in Iraq -- and we'll only defeat them with the Iraqi people -- we will beat that terrorism and insurgency worldwide," he said. Blair's comments came a day after Bush, in a nationally televised address, promised to keep U.S. forces in Iraq until the fight is won. "The most important thing we can do in Iraq is concentrate on the fact ... that what is happening there is a monumental battle that affects our own security," Blair said. "You've got every bad element in the whole of the Middle East in Iraq trying to stop that country (from getting) on its feet and (becoming) a democracy. "The world for both of us changed after Sept. 11," Blair said. "What happened for me after Sept. 11 is that the balance of risk changed. I took the view that if these people ever got hold of nuclear, chemical or biological capability, they would probably use it." Sept. 11 "changed the whole picture. It changed the politics of how we dealt with the threat. And I still believe in a time to come it will be seen as important that we took that decision." Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

To: steve harris who wrote (35675)	7/9/2005 8:33:36 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Harris, your "evidence" is a silly blog and a political humor site. And I wouldn't joke about Rather if I were you. As we now peel back the layers of lies and spin surrounding Mr. Rove, it may come out that Rove arranged the whole thing, planting a piece of phony evidence on Rather to try and discredit the story, even though the story was 100% true. Rove has used this dirty trick in the past. See "Bush's Brain". Rove is also responsible for three smear campaigns against three Silver Star winners, calling them all cowards, fakers and traitors. This is the kind of creep Karl Rove is. This is how he thinks.