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To: Keith Feral who wrote (165686)7/9/2005 8:48:41 PM
From: Cyprian  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>> I didn't even think the Jews killed Christ. Wasn't he exectuted by the Romans? <<

what saith the scripture?

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (John 5:39)

For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16)

>> I think it is ironic that Rome is home to the Catholic Church. <<

the true catholic (universal) Church's home is the heavenly Jerusalem, the heavenly Zion.

>> Hmmm.... Wasn't Jesus a Jew? <<

true...but what does the holy apostle Paul say?

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. (2 Corinthians 5:16)

St. Paul says we are to know Christ after the spirit and not according to the flesh...

For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. (Philippians 3:3)

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. (Galatians 6:15-16)

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. (Galatians 3:28-29:28-29)



To: Keith Feral who wrote (165686)7/9/2005 9:03:45 PM
From: Cyprian  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>> Are you sure you want to damn the people of Jesus to hell... <<

i have done no such thing. first of all these are not the people of Jesus. these people are the sons of perdition. for proof of this i would recommend that you read John 8:37-44 several times very carefully. second of all, it is not the place for Orthodox Christians to damn entire groups of people to hell. i am called to preach the truth. this is not my own personal judgment mind you, this is the judgment of Christ which was laid down a couple thousand years ago.

i am simply declaring the judgment of Christ and his Holy Church, not my own judgment.

i'm sure you are familiar with the famous verse John 3:16. "For God so loved the world..."

let's examine the next two verses...

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:17-18)

so you see, "he that believeth not" in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ "is condemned already".

the muslims and jews DO NOT BELIEVE in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. this is an established fact.

i am simply warning them to flee from the wrath to come, by informing them of the necessity of calling upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. there is no salvation in moses or muhammed. the most loving thing i can do is inform the jews and the muslims of this.

for revealing the condemnation spoken of in scripture--not my own--for this i am called a hater.

Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. (Luke 6:22-23)