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To: Tomcat who wrote (164826)7/12/2005 7:05:38 PM
From: KeithDust2000Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 275872
 
Tomcat, this part is noteworthy:

An IT Manager for a Fortune 500 financial corporation with more than 20,000 desktop computers went a step further, saying that the company has been trying for years to get AMD-based machines from its suppliers, without success. "It is very frustrating not to have a choice," he said, confirming AMD's claim that vendors were not allowed to supply AMD products. "Intel threatened our suppliers that they would cancel rebates if AMD products were offered." He continued, "it has been just recently that one of our suppliers has begun offering some AMD products. I believe AMD has a valid complaint in their lawsuit for what my vendors have described as 'dirty tactics'."

There are some traditional arguments for companies to go rather with Intel than with AMD products - such as proven quality and higher reliability. So, do these two IT managers see any advantage in using Intel over AMD? The first of our correspondents said that Intel's reputation for being more reliable has faded over the years. "AMD's reputation is good enough for us to consider the chips in our operation." Our second executive mentioned that Intel even had recent problems supplying enough mobile processors: "Our supplier was not able to deliver the notebooks we requested, since the processors were not available."

What about AMD's claim that Intel's market dominance results in inflated processor pricing? Both IT managers said initial pricing and even features of a computer are secondary - the service and support package play the primary role in deciding for or against a product. The European manager saw no particular advantage for either company, while the Fortune 500 IT manager mentioned that his company could save significantly with AMD, as "AMD's recent business platform offerings are below Intel's price points."

Our correspondents also agreed that recent AMD processors have become particularly more attractive to corporate buyers. Again, this is not because of their speed or features, but rather because of their power consumption characteristics. "Until recently, this was a non-issue for us," one said. "But when one system consumes 100 watts less power, we are talking about serious money. And this does not even count in the fact that we need an additional 100 watts for the air-conditioner to get rid of that heat." In the case of the second company we interviewed, power savings could amount to more than a million dollars per year!


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Looks like these IT-managers are a bunch of AMDROIDS, too. Just like everyone else in the industry, apart from INTEL employees and investors, of course.



To: Tomcat who wrote (164826)7/12/2005 8:18:57 PM
From: TGPTNDRRespond to of 275872
 
TC, Re: Analysis: AMD vs. Intel - ... Toms Hardware.>

geez, what a Dildo.

Look at AT&T, which at least at the beginning of this millennium, was much more powerful than before the antitrust suit it lost in the 1970s.

tomshardware.com

That was the one that finally caused me to reply, but...
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Basically, AMD says that Intel hasn't been playing nice in the global processor market for a decade or so, using unfair practices to maintain its monopoly power.

tomshardware.com

AMD should be bringing in final findings in INGR case, JFTC, and every other "Out of Court" settlement INTC has paid for in the last 15 years. They can't go back into the 386 code case, most likely, unless they can prove some unilateral violations..

I'd like to see some paperwork on INTC and MUEI/MU farce...

Also on INTC, DEC, CPQ, and HP affair but I doubt AMD would have the *STONES* to go there..
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Intel has until July 18 to file an answer to AMD's claim, and due to the many components of this case, we can only speculate about what this answer will say.

tomshardware.com

LOL!!

INTC says the case is without merit and and asks for dismissal... Headline July 19, 2005...

You saw it here first. LOL!!

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Roland Vogl, same page.

"First, AMD has to prove that Intel actually has monopoly power, which would be 40 percent in the US - that should be a non-issue here. But it also has to prove that Intel abused this monopoly power in a geographic region and this will be quite difficult."

Can't believe he was properly quoted. On the other hand I remember a *WHOLE SLEW OF FOLKS* in high places saying RMBS ram was the wave of the future.. Maybe it still is.

Looks to me, however, like *PART* of the *CASE*.

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In terms of this case, it's early in the day, and AMD is flexing its muscles without revealing too much of what it has up its sleeves.

tomshardware.com

How many Specific instances would this *DILDO* like to have concluded in the opening broadside?

Maybe they should have listed their witnesses in the order they were to be called?

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Same page.

Another major part in AMD's case will be a topic that was often discussed in the Microsoft case: customer benefit. Intel's dominant position ultimately results in processor prices that are much higher than they would be in a more competitive landscape.

**HOOT HOOT SNERK** the only thing that counted, in the end, was how much the States could rake out of the settlement. Same deal with the Tobacco settlement. If anybody thinks those cases were about anything but a government money grab they need to read the cases.

The good part is that this is a private affair and the governments are *MOSTLY* not involved except on the periphery.

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Uncle. I can't do it anymore.

Pure Nonesense.

-tgp