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To: Dennis O'Bell who wrote (166134)7/15/2005 1:20:38 AM
From: geode00  Respond to of 281500
 
"Muslims have been killing each other in that region without Shrub's help - such as the Iran / Iraq war "

Nope, we were involved in that one as well. Not Shrub personally but Rumsfeld personally and other similar creatures.

We need to get our military out of the ME. What would $200-$300 billion spent on alternative energy sources development buy us?

A whole new industry we could export to the world?

Mebbe.



To: Dennis O'Bell who wrote (166134)7/15/2005 1:20:46 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 281500
 
Yup. I agree.



To: Dennis O'Bell who wrote (166134)7/15/2005 4:43:17 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 281500
 
Further evidence for you position, here is what Churchill said about US involvement both worl wars:

"America should have minded her own business and stayed out of the World War. If you hadn't entered the war the Allies would have made peace with Germany in the Spring of 1917. Had we made peace then there would have been no collapse in Russia followed by Communism, no breakdown in Italy followed by Fascism, and Germany would not have signed the Versailles Treaty, which has enthroned Nazism in Germany. If America had stayed out of the war, all these isms wouldn't today be sweeping the continent of Europe and breaking down parliamentary government— and if England had made peace early in 1917, it would have saved over one million British, French, American, and other lives."


So there you have it. People should fail or succeed on their on so as to learn what works best for them in life and where to assign the blame or the credit.