Uh huh. I just wanted to bring some balance & a little
context to the issue since we agree it is important to
take a balanced view.
The poll I cited seems to show that rather than a "take
advantage" aspect, it may well be that the harsh rhetoric
that dominates politics these days has hurt all politicians
in the eyes of the general public. And perhaps it has hurt
the more vocal party rather than helped them.
One other thing to consider. Polls done for internal uses
tend to be far more accurate than polls done for the MSM.
Here We Go Again - Debunking Another Slanted Poll From
The Washington Post
For about the 9 millionth time it's up to us to tell you
why the latest MSM poll, this one from the Washington
Post, which purports to show that President Bush and his
policies are as popular as Michael Jackson at a Boy Scout
meeting, is flawed.
Party Leanings
30% Democrat;
31% Republican, and
34% Independent
Sounds fair you say (even though the 2004 exit poll
showed R's and D's split at about 37%).....utill you read
the next question and you find that the respondents
"lean" towards the Democrats by a percentage of 48% to 34%
Age of Respondents - The poll also over samples the
number of 18-29 year old voters, the age group that voted
most for Kerry. In 2004, 17% of the electorate was
between 18-29, and Kerry's advantage among them was +9%.
In the Post's poll that age group was 21% of the sample.
Income Level of Respondents - Next take into
consideration the annual income of the Post poll's
respondents. In 2004, 45% of the electorate was making
under $50K, and voted for Kerry 55-44%. But in the Post's
poll, 55% of respondents make under $50K. That's a huge
jump in likely Democratic voters among the Post poll's
respondents.
(much more at link)
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Power Line - I also liked this comment by professional
pollster Robert Moran:
Please keep in mind that most media produced polls are
not very good, are done by the lowest bidder in the
cheapest possible way, and are generally biased in their
wording and flow. The best polling is the polling done
for private clients that is never released, because this
polling is done to find where voters really are and to
make campaign decisions, not advocate a position or add
juice to a story.
That it consistent with our experience; we sometimes have
access to polling done by campaigns, and it always turns
out to be more reliable than newspaper polls.
Having said that, it shouldn't be a surprise that lots of
people (whatever the right number may be) don't think the
Iraq war is worth the cost. Why would they? Anyone who
relies on the newspapers believes that:
1) we went to war only because of Saddam's WMDs, and
2) there weren't any WMDs.
Further, the casual news consumer never hears about Iraq
except when there is an explosion. There was an increase
in support for the war following the elections in
January, but that was the last time most people heard any
good news.
If I were a liberal, I'd be frustrated that so many
Americans continue to support the war, despite a near-
blackout on the reasons for doing so.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21400489
Here's a perfect example of a rigged poll. Ask loaded,
misleading questions, oversample liberals & undersample
conservatives. This is a quite common practice in the MSM.
....ABC News/Washington Post poll is getting a lot of press....
Sure enough: they over-sampled Democrats. If you look at
page 16 of the poll data, which can be downloaded from
the Post's article, it discloses that 35% of the poll's
respondents were Democrats, while only 28% were
Republicans. Given that slightly more self-identified
Republicans than Democrats voted in last November's
election, this represents an egregious, seven-point over-
sampling of Democrats. No wonder the poll data are bad
for Republicans.....
....poll that asks, "Would you support or oppose changing
Senate rules to make it easier for Republicans to confirm
President Bush's judicial nominees?" Not surprisingly,
given the wording of the poll, a huge majority of
respondents said they oppose the Republicans....
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21266315
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Message 21269900
Message 21310709
As I opined yesterday, I thought that the AP-Ipsos poll
was a phony. Today, thanks to the GOP publishing the
specifics of the polling, I've got proof of the phoniness
of the polling.
Forty percent of those surveyed said they were
Republicans & 50 percent Democrats. The largest age
group, 31 percent, was between the ages of 18-34.
In exit polling at the 2004 election sites, party
registration was evenly split at 37%. This poll is also
fatally flawed in making the best age cohort for Dems the
biggest cohort of the polling.
Also keep in mind that the AP-Ipsos poll isn't a reliable
measure of public opinion. Last fall, they consistently
misreported the state of the presidential race in Kerry's
favor, with 1 such poll just the week before the election
showing Kerry winning 52% of the vote.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21409898
More Unusual Demographics In Media Polling
I have often written about the suspect adjustments made
to the sampling on CBS polls, which skew the results so
that they put the Bush administration and the Republicans
in a harsher light than the raw data indicates. While the
new Washington Post/ABC poll doesn't appear to employ the
same "weighting" technique that CBS used to shift its
demographics to give the Democrats a four-point edge that
its sample didn't support, the Post/ABC sample itself
appears very suspect.
Question 904 asks respondents to identify to which party
they lean the most
Democrats: 48%
Republicans: 34%
Neither: 16%
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21400180
A new Gallup Poll reports that President Bush’s approval
rating has fallen to 46%. The internals of the poll are
quite favorable to Democrats, so it looks like we are
doomed next year.
Well, not quite.
“In the survey sample, 36% called themselves Democrats,
29% Republicans. Including those who “lean” toward a
party, 51% were Democrats, 40% Republicans.”
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21352736
CBS Poll: Behind The Numbers
The new weighted numbers increase Democrats from 34.3% of
the sample to 36.3%, while dropping Republicans from
33.9% to 31.9%, creating a gap that went from 0.4% to
4.4% in favor of Democrats. The CBS weighting puts
Republicans on the same footing as independents, an
unusual and unrealistic model for any polling sample.
"It's not the first time that CBS skewed its polling
samples to get the desired results"
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21362557
In early October 2004, Newsweek released a poll
immediately after the first presidential debate....
....Newsweek was basing its headline "The Race is On" and
accompanying story on a comparison between its two most
recent polls. The problem, though, was that the polling
data was inconsistent. The October Newsweek poll sampled
more Democrats than it did Republicans....
So why the breathless headlines?
...."As a result, the opportunity for honest debate was lost."
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21349344
Message 21352734
Redirection: How the MSM Plays Games With the Numbers
As usual, a closer look at the numbers reveals the lie.
Let’s take a look at the three most recent Job Approval
polls, by CBS, Quinnipiac, and the CNN/USA Today/Gallup
cooperative.
On the face, it would appear that Bush’s numbers are
slipping to the mid-to-low 40’s, but that claim does not
stand up to inspection.
(Details at link)
Message 21366898
Polling Dissonance
....with rare exceptions the media’s political opinion
polls tend to overstate Democrat support and
simultaneously to understate GOP support. That’s been
going on for years and years and years.
To illustrate the harsh reality of media polling
dissonance, we’re going to start with last year’s
election cycle:
Florida - 2004
October 30, 2004.
Source: CNN/Gallup/USA Today
Poll: Kerry allegedly leads by three points, 49-46
October 31, 2004
Survey USA
Poll: Bush allegedly leads merely by one point, 49-48
November 1, 2004
American Research Group
Poll: Kerry allegedly leads by two points, 50-48
the actual results were:
November 2, 2004
Source: Voters
Bush wins the state by five full percentage points, 52-47-1
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21498111
ALERT! GALLUP POLL BIAS!
Do you remember the Gallup Poll that had President Bush
with a 45% job approval rating? Well, the new poll has
President Bush moving up to a 46% job approval rating.
However, the sample in the former poll was 33%
Republican, 32% Independent, 34% Democratic.
The new poll, that only has marginal improvement in his
approval rating, is only 29% Republican, 31% Independent,
and 38% Democrat.
If this were 1980, that poll might, might be accurate.
This is 2004, and the GOP is at parity with the
Democratic Party.
In other words, add 4% to the Preisdent’s job approval
rating in the new poll, and you have his real rating.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21469916
Oh, Those Polls! - 6/12/2005
Just as an aside, the Rasmussen Reports poll on President
Bush's job approval shows the President at 50% approve...
...just about where its been all year; so much for the
concept that his support has been steadily dropping all
year, which is the gist of what other polls have shown.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21410332
Bush’s Rising Approval Ratings - 7/12/2005
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