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To: jlallen who wrote (692246)7/16/2005 3:36:12 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 769670
 
Military Tribunals Upheld

By Captain Ed on War on Terror
Captain's Quarters

A federal appeals court has overturned an earlier ruling that attempted to give Gitmo detainees access to American courts for determination of status. In a sweeping victory for the Bush administration, the appeals court also ruled that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to Salim Ahmed Hamdan or any al-Qaeda or terrorist detainees, making the military tribunals legal and appropriate:
     A federal appeals court put the Bush administration's
military commissions for terrorist suspects back on track
Friday, saying a detainee at the Guantanamo Bay prison
who once was Osama bin-Laden's driver can stand trial.
     A three-judge panel ruled 3-0 against Salim Ahmed Hamdan,
whose case was halted by a federal judge on grounds that
commission procedures were unlawful.
    "Congress authorized the military commission that will try
Hamdan," said the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District
of Columbia Circuit.
    The protections of the 1949 Geneva Convention do not
apply to al-Qaida and its members, so Hamdan does not
have a right to enforce its provisions in court, the
appeals judges said.
The earlier ruling would have taken jurisdiction for determining detainee status from the Defense Department to American civilian courts, creating a logistical and legal mess. Soldiers who captured these non-uniformed terrorists could have been forced to appear in court to testify to the circumstances of each capture. Every case would have involved lawyers, the media, and the laborious civil law process. Even with just 500 prisoners, determining whether the military could retain their jurisdiction could have taken years -- while the intelligence that could save American lives got withheld behind a Miranda warning.

After explaining why the Geneva Convention is not a judicially enforceable treaty at length in section III of the opinion, the court reminds the parties why it doesn't apply anyway:
     Even if the 1949 Geneva Convention could be enforced in
court, this would not assist Hamdan. He contends that a
military commission trial would violate his rights under
Article 102, which provides that a “prisoner of war can
be validly sentenced only if the sentence has been
pronounced by the same courts according to the same
procedure as in the case of members of the armed forces
of the Detaining Power.” One problem for Hamdan is that
he does not fit the Article 4 definition of a “prisoner
of war” entitled to the protection of the Convention. He
does not purport to be a member of a group who
displayed “a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a
distance” and who conducted “their operations in
accordance with the laws and customs of war.” ...
     Another problem for Hamdan is that the 1949 Convention
does not apply to al Qaeda and its members. The
Convention appears to contemplate only two types of armed
conflicts. The first is an international conflict. Under
Common Article 2, the provisions of the Convention apply
to “all cases of declared war or of any other armed
conflict which may arise between two or more of the High
Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not
recognized by one of them.” Needless to say, al Qaeda is
not a state and it was not a “High Contracting Party.”
There is an exception, set forth in the last paragraph of
Common Article 2, when one of the “Powers” in a conflict
is not a signatory but the other is. Then the signatory
nation is bound to adhere to the Convention so long as
the opposing Power “accepts and applies the provisions
thereof.” Even if al Qaeda could be considered a Power,
which we doubt, no one claims that al Qaeda has accepted
and applied the provisions of the Convention.
As far as the argument that Hamdan's capture in Afghanistan, a signatory to the Geneva Convention, makes him eligible under the civil-war exemption to the uniform requirement, the court takes an even dimmer view of the lower-level ruling:
     Afghanistan is a “High Contracting Party.” Hamdan was
captured during hostilities there. But is the war against
terrorism in general and the war against al Qaeda in
particular, an “armed conflict not of an international
character”? ...
     President Bush determined, in a memorandum to the Vice
President and others on February 7, 2002, that it did not
fit that description because the conflict was “international
in scope.” The district court disagreed with the
President’s view of Common Article 3, apparently because
the court thought we were not engaged in a separate
conflict with al Qaeda, distinct from the conflict with
the Taliban. We have difficulty understanding the court’s
rationale. Hamdan was captured in Afghanistan in November
2001, but the conflict with al Qaeda arose before then,
in other regions, including this country on September 11,
2001. Under the Constitution, the President “has a degree
of independent authority to act” in foreign affairs, Am.
Ins. Ass’n v. Garamendi, 539 U.S. 396, 414 (2003), and,
for this reason and others, his construction and
application of treaty provisions is entitled to “great
weight.”
It looks like some common sense has returned to the Geneva Convention debate. The lack of a uniform, the absence of al-Qaeda acceptance of the Convention, and the clear international character of the conflict all point to not only a lack of standing for POW status, but good reason to deny it. The entire point of these Geneva provisions is to protect civilian populations by giving a clear distinction between them and the combatants. Obviously, wearing a uniform puts combatants at higher risk, but nations agreed to do that in order to keep civilians from getting unnecessarily harmed. AQ intends on inflicting as much harm on civilians as possible while hiding among them for unfair advantage -- which disqualifies them from the GC's protections. We must not allow them to acquire those protections if we want to discourage others from violating these tenets of conflict.

In a rational political environment, this ruling would receive bipartisan accolades. Look instead for carping and sniping from the Democrats in the days ahead as they continue to demand civilian court treatment for the terrorists at Gitmo. (via Power Line and Michelle Malkin)

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To: jlallen who wrote (692246)7/16/2005 10:48:24 AM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
If I'm reading correctly, a trial begins this Tuesday in Richmond, Va.

Here's an interesting note from wikipedia: Several websites promoting what most observers consider to be conspiracy theories including whatreallyhappened.com have pointed to a supposed uncanny resemblance between Padilla and police sketches of an Oklahoma City Bombing suspect known as "John Doe Two." These sites claim he was likely a CIA agent and that the fact he is being held as a enemy combatant is part of a coverup of his involvement in the Oklahoma City bombings while a CIA agent. whatreallyhappened.com

On June 9, 2002 President Bush issued an order to Secretary Rumsfeld to detain Padilla as an "enemy combatant". The order legally justified the detention by leaning on the AUMF[2] which authorized the President to "...use all necessary force against ... such nations, organizations, or persons." and in the opinion of the administration a U.S. citizen can be an enemy combatant (This was decided by the United States Supreme Court in the case of ex parte Quirin)[3]. Padilla is currently being detained without charge in a naval brig at Hanahan in South Carolina and is accused by the Bush Administration of being an illegal enemy combatant and a nuclear terrorist planning to set off a dirty bomb. [4]

On December 18, 2003, the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals declared that the Bush Administration lacked the authority to designate a U.S. citizen arrested on U.S. soil an "illegal enemy combatant" without clear congressional authorization (per 18 U.S.C. § 4001(a)); it consequently ordered the government to release him from military custody within thirty days[5]. However, the court has stayed the order pending appeal.

On February 20, 2004, the Supreme Court agreed to hear the government's appeal. The Supreme Court heard the case, Rumsfeld v. Padilla, in April 2004, but on June 28 it was thrown out on a technicality. The court declared that New York State, where the case was originally filed, was an improper venue and that the case should have been filed in South Carolina, where Padilla was being held.

On February 28, 2005, in Spartanburg, South Carolina, U.S. District Judge Henry Floyd ordered the Bush administration to either charge Padilla or release him[6]. He relied on the Supreme Court's ruling in the parallel enemy combatant case of Yaser Hamdi (Hamdi v. Rumsfeld), in which the majority decision declared a "state of war is not a blank check for the president when it comes to the rights of the nation's citizens."

Padilla remains in custody pending appeal of Judge Floyd's decision. On June 13, 2005 the US Supreme Court denied Padilla's petition they hear the case directly instead of the appeal being first heard by the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va. That trial is scheduled to begin July 19.

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