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To: Ilaine who wrote (125602)	7/16/2005 12:07:31 PM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793670

Don't criminalize his attitude. hopefully, we get to vote on this issue. my vote is to take some type of action against flag burning. The penalty should be severe enough to discourage anyone from burning the flag except to properly retire the flag under guidelines.

To: Ilaine who wrote (125602)	7/16/2005 5:07:14 PM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793670

Then what's being punished is your attitude Or rather the content of your speech. Reverence = ok, defiance = not OK. That's a 1st Amendment no-no. I think the kid is screwed though. No expression, just conduct. Derek

To: Ilaine who wrote (125602)	7/17/2005 9:41:39 AM
From: Bridge Player	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793670

Then what's being punished is your attitude, and criminalizing people's attitude is as un-American as it gets. Isn't that precisely the basis of so-called hate crime legislation? Criminalizing the motive, reason, thought process if you will, of someone who commits a crime? Congress defines hate crime as: " a crime in which the defendant intentionally selects a victim, or in the case of a property crime, the property that is the object of the crime, because of the actual or perceived race, color, national origin, ethnicity, gender, disability, or sexual orientation of any person." Section 280003(a) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (28 U.S.C. 994 note). Do you believe that this legislation is unconstitutional?