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To: Ilaine who wrote (125736)7/17/2005 1:20:30 PM
From: ManyMoose  Respond to of 793674
 
Logically, it would seem hate crime laws presuppose that one's thoughts can be established, and that bad thoughts exacerbate a crime that is already illegal.

At best, such laws are redundant.



To: Ilaine who wrote (125736)7/17/2005 6:03:20 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793674
 
Cobaltblue living in another Myth!

Myth: Hate Crimes Laws are Unconstitutional

The U.S. Supreme Court has unanimously rejected a First Amendment challenge to the constitutionality of hate crimes laws. A defendant's motive for committing a crime has traditionally been an important factor in sentencing, wrote Chief Justice Rehnquist in Wisconsin v. Mitchell, 508 U.S 476 (1993).

The Attorneys General in several states with hate crimes laws have argued in their amicus brief to the court that bias-inspired crime is more likely to provoke retaliatory crimes, inflict emotional harms on its victims, and incite community unrest. That justification for penalty enhancement is appropriate and long standing, held the Chief Justice, citing Blackstone, who wrote that those crimes "which are the most destructive of the public safety and happiness" should be most severely punished.

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To: Ilaine who wrote (125736)7/17/2005 11:23:27 PM
From: Bridge Player  Respond to of 793674
 
Re: hate crimes. I totally agree with you.



To: Ilaine who wrote (125736)7/18/2005 7:36:32 AM
From: haqihana  Respond to of 793674
 
CB, I agree. There have been "so called" hate crimes since the first humans walked this earth, and to make a big deal out of it now, is totally redundant. I believe these laws against hate crimes were contrived by the court to appease African Americans, and homosexuals. The laws that were already on the books were sufficient to deal with any offenses against either group.