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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (196)	7/18/2005 3:30:56 PM
From: nspolar	Respond to of 50641

XOI could go all the way back to 700 on a good first retrenchment off the top.

To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (196)	7/22/2005 3:03:50 PM
From: SliderOnTheBlack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50641

~~~~~~ OSX: Partying like it's 1999 ~~~~~~~ Experience is a great teacher...but, only if you showed up for class, took notes, listened and learned the lessons taught. One could have been 110% correct on the ultimate ending for the Internet,Tech & Telecom Nasdaq Bubble in 1999 - but, if you chose to step in front of the NAZ Train in the Fall of 1999 at around NAZ 3500 - the last thing you heard was that whistle and the last thing you saw was that white light... So, if you think you know a 1999-esque Train-Wreck in the making when you see one; do you try to defy the odds and ignore risk:reward metrics and try to perfectly time the top before going short ? - do you even attempt to trade it at all ? - and if so, how do you trade it ? Did we learn anything from the NAZ-Mania of 1999 that can be applied here to the Oilpatch Stocks ? In my opinion, we did. The lesson was this: - NAZ 3500 ultimately offered 1,500+ Points in BOTH directions. - both Bulls AND Bears ultimately got massacred by the NAZ Bubble in 1999. So in retrospect, hopefully the lesson learned - was that "volatility" was the best risk:reward bet of all. Certainly better than either trying to call either an ultimate Top, or a Bottom. As such, for those that attended Class, took notes and both listened and learned from "The Party of 1999" - The "best" Risk:Reward Trade is not in attempting to call either the ultimate Top, or the Bottom in the Peak Oil Play - but rather it is in making the Trade that in my opinion, is being offered to us once again on a deja-vu Silver Platter - VOLATILITY. * VOLATILITY is the Play & OPTIONS are the Way * Options allow us to lever Volatility, while simultaneously allowing us to quantify and limit both our exposure and our potential downside. That would have been a very smart way to Trade the "Nasdaq Party of 1999" and I think it will be the smart way to trade the Peak Oil Party of 2005 as well. I went short in March & April atop the parabolic move in Oil & Gas stocks from Jan to March: Message 21121409 Message 21121783 I thought that if the Bush/Cheney Energy Plan was passed, that Oil could ultimately fall to as low as $38 on a pullback... it hit $46 - which was over a 20% retracement and some stocks like ATW & BRY paid me $12-$15 on the short-side and it ended up being a pretty well timed and nicely profitable swing-trade on the short-side. When I covered my short - I bought some max out of the money Calls & LEAPS to institute a moving/dynamic Options Straddle - but admittedly, with an ultimate Short-Sided Trading bias. Today, those "calls" are highly profitable and I am cashing in all of my "calls" bought on the short-cover...but, will still hold 'all' of my LEAP CALLS - in following the Market Lesson of 1999. As far as re-instituting the Short side of the Straddle and buying some more Puts... patience. Long fought resistance when ultimately penetrated, oft' becomes future support. - give the OSX some line here... let 'em run. Earnings are strong and HAL is popping +9% on 3-4 x normal volume - so patience on the short-sided trigger finger is prudent here. One does not have to be a believer in $60 Oil to profit from it on the long side any more than one had to be a beliver in NAZ 3500 in 1999. The lesson hopefully learned was that irrational exhuberances and speculative momenteum can go much higher, for much longer - than anyone would rationally expect. Being right and choosing to be right - via standing in front of a Freight Train... are two different things. I think I am "right" on the Fundamentals of Oil here, but I learned my lessons from those that attempted Martyrdom from the NAZ-Bubble of 1999. The beauty of being "right" on the "VOLATILITY" Trade, is that I do not have to be "right" on the ultimate veracity of the "Peak Oil is Here & Now" Trade... I only have to be right on the lessons learned from "1999" on what the best trade really was... "VOLATILITY". PS: Only 200 more Rigs drilling this year than last... for Peak Oil-Mania to unfold as scripted by the Simmonsite's - there had better be one helluva depletion rate YEAR over YEAR and one helluva lot of dry holes being drilled (vbg). Slider`