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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (166447)7/18/2005 5:35:27 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Sure.

1) Pakistan had a civilian government, a constitution and elections at the time.

2) Saudi has not made any attempts to export its form of government anywhere.

3) They were/are both friendly nations to the USA that were in agreement that the USSR was an oppressive foreign government and that was the justification for supporting the revolution.

So, my assumption is not that far fetched; nor do I think it was unusual. I challenged you to provide any documentation from that period that predicted the kind of outcomes we now witness... There simply arent any, or if there were they must have been obscure; which makes it far from the common sense you suggest.

Our hopes (in 1989) for Afghanistan were dashed by the creation of a world wide terror network and the creation of Taliban type movements.

"If you did not see it that way at the time, then that was your choice..."

Pretty much the way everyone else viewed things in 1989, otherwise there would be an overwhelming bundle of media that condemned us for pulling out in 1989. That is a fairly recent phenomenon.

"...and anyone who had spent the smallest time with the Afghans at the time ..."

I spent time with Afghans at the time and heard the western thinking Afghans complain that the US wasn't doing more to help bring about a democratic government in Afghanistan. I heard others argue that the USA should stay home and mind its own business. I wish now that we had done more. At the time I empathised with their struggle; however, at that time the consciousness of American people was apposed to our intervention, with the hopes that the Afghan people would be able to pull that off without external interference. I remember that clearly and identified with it. What I didn't get, nor did most people, was that the mujahhideen had captured the hearts of the Afghanistan people, and would later betray them and humanity out of misguided loyalty to extremist dogma. Show me the media from the eighties that predicted this????