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To: Slagle who wrote (66417)	7/19/2005 12:05:06 PM
From: KyrosL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Good post Slagle. Though I don't agree with its basic premise, it presents a likely evolution in US politics. Isolationism is a traditional response in the US, when there is major trouble -- because the US CAN survive fine isolated, unlike most other countries. It's not a great scenario for the US, but it's an even worse scenario for China, Japan, and Europe.

To: Slagle who wrote (66417)	7/19/2005 12:53:56 PM
From: pogohere	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Re: "the end of science:" NASA just proved with Deep Impact that comets are not dirty snowballs. That's why the story fell out of the mainstream news. This is the first of the axioms of astronomy to fall. Stay tuned. History didn't end and science has been monopolized by stoopid thinking and vested interests, just as stoopid and vested as that which promotes globalization. As Josh Billings said: "It ain't what you know that gets you: it's what you know that ain't so."

To: Slagle who wrote (66417)	7/19/2005 6:39:53 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello Slagle, Your plan / wish seems to be a construct of faulty suppositions built on shifting sand resting on top of a shimmering mirage that says, ... <<With only maybe a single lifetimes of oil left do you really think that air travel and ocean freight as we know them will continue on through the ages propelled by ethanol and bio-diesel?>> No. But there will be other ways, better ways, else we got nothing to worry about any more in all cases. What is your bet? since 20 years is a relatively short time, and qualify for LTBH figuring. The end to globalism is precisely what would not produce a solution. <<Without the US Navy protecting the sea lanes what do you think will happen to global trade?>> If you are talking politics, oh, about nothing, next to irrelevant, for there are a few countries readying to do a better job, all without engaging in the convolution of what some might regard as economic colonialism of the old, and resisted by the locals. See, free trade is supposed to be free, of the will, not free, as you you must open your borders or I will scream and shout, and then call up a gun boat. If you are piracy and such, oh, about nothing, they would be strung up when caught. <<the American voters are the only people in the world capable of ending globalism>> Globalism, in my book, had existed long before the Americans came into being, only a matter of degrees and minutes. Perhaps you are talking about trade with America and the world ex-America? The lobsided trade. The trade that is 'unfair'. The trade that occurs on unleveled ground. That trade is what is known as competition and cooperation, generating aggregate wealth, but making the poor outof some, especially those who can not compete, whatever the field, level or not. My attitude to what you call globalism is that it is likely not stoppable, because at the end of every day, it is a way of natural solutions, and those who try to stop it will fall further behind, like them folks in the desert. I would also prefer to not compete, and just garden and fish and tend to my hoard. Sure. But then I would fall behind, which I do not mind, but I would not be giving the kids a chance to choose as I could. Your recommended solution had been tried before, many times, and at no time did it work as advertised. Oddly enough, many trying times were precisely post-bubble moments, which were created by the trying of other formulations of the monetary kind. Chugs, J