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To: philv who wrote (36313)7/19/2005 12:50:12 PM
From: Tommaso  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 110194
 
>>>the money supply must increase and keep up to the GDP, or else new investments would be chocked off<<<

Actually the money supply decreased on the whole under the gold standard in the U.S. 1865-1900, a period of, mostly, increasing prosperity, interrupted by depressions.

I don't understand the money supply figures for the last two years. They seem quite disciplined, yet the expansion of credit via mortgages and refinancing mortgages has been huge.



To: philv who wrote (36313)7/19/2005 1:21:20 PM
From: Umunhum  Respond to of 110194
 
I think you would agree that in this fiat system, the money supply must increase and keep up to the GDP, or else new investments would be chocked off.

Yes, either money supply or money velocity. As I understand it, there are three factors involved in inflation - Money Supply, Money Velocity, and Production Growth.

Many analysts have made the point that much of the debt and money creation is not going to finance new viable business or increased productivity, rather to consumption which has no long term economic benefit.

Yes and this money is then sanitized by the foreign central banks buying up our treasuries - thus keeping money supply and money velocity down. This keeps inflation at bay until eventually these governments cash in their treasuries to buy resources.



To: philv who wrote (36313)7/19/2005 3:07:17 PM
From: Wyätt Gwyön  Respond to of 110194
 
one reason we will never go to a gold system is that it would be a boon to places in the world which are rich in reserves, like Russia, which US and others do not desire to enrich. already OECD is in position of enriching ME through oil purchases, but that can't be helped because nobody has yet figured out a way to print barrels of oil.

this goes to the crux of the matter: nobody needs gold to make the world go round. but we need oil.