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To: Road Walker who wrote (242277)	7/19/2005 8:33:54 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1573696

"And then, in 30 years, when you are a in your 50's or 60's" But you will know when it is coming. You will start to hear a good decade before this happens about how we were winning, but quit. And when you try to correct them, they will respond, "but we weren't losing". And they will be correct in that. Never realizing that there are other elements in the set, that the state of "not losing" is not only "winning". But it also could be "stagnated".

To: Road Walker who wrote (242277)	7/19/2005 8:35:01 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573696

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To: Road Walker who wrote (242277)	7/19/2005 9:04:47 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573696

JF, Look at the people on this thread, the non-thinking ones, the ones that proclaim "I am Republican right or wrong" -or- "I am American right or wrong". What's worse are the hypocrites who claim to be "moderate" and "open-minded" but prove to be the most closed-minded partisans on this thread. Tenchusatsu

To: Road Walker who wrote (242277)	7/20/2005 2:40:52 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1573696

re: While the numbers are heartening, I think they are still too high for what's going on in the WH and Iraq. I AGREE 100%. It takes so much time. Look at the people on this thread, the non-thinking ones, the ones that proclaim "I am Republican right or wrong" -or- "I am American right or wrong". They are starting to question the policy, or at the least the execution in Iraq. But the facts has to slap them in the face 1000 times. Yup. I don't understand it. If one knows the difference between right and wrong, then one should have got it the first or second time it slapped them across the face. Give them time, the ones that have a brain (and can't admit they were wrong) will realize that they were "right" all along, that the US never really committed to Iraq, and that's why we lost. Then 10 years down the road everyone will admit the whole thing was a mistake (and everyone will claim they were against the wat). And then 20 years later, they will claim that the liberals forced the end of the war prematurely and we would have won had we stayed. It will do nothing for the husbands and wives that have lost a spouse, or the kids that have lost a father or mother, or the parents that have lost a kid. Or the people who have lost a friend, or the Iraqi's that have lost their 100,000 innocents. What is the death toll, 60% women and children in Iraq? That's what's painful.........real people have paid a real price for Bush's grand faux pas. Its disgusting. Get used to it. Many of the chicken hawks will join us, and say they were right all along. And we will embrace them... because it's so important to save just a few more lives. And then the asshole hawks will say we just did it wrong, and we will say "OK, maybe you have a point", just because we really need to end the whole damn thing. And then, in 30 years, when you are a in your 50's or 60's, some SOB idiot President will decide he can change the world. And you will say to yourself, "what the fuck, I've been through this before, I don't need this again". And then, you will go through it all again... I have a feeling that scenario has been playing out in this country for a long time. I suspect we are of two minds with one mind only getting control of the other for certain periods of time. Its what makes this country schizoid. But what pisses me off the most is how the rich, fat cats play us for their own benefit. And Americans fall for it every time...........with people like Tim feeling the need to defend them. Its insane. ted