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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (37619)	7/23/2005 9:31:32 AM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

we must amplify the evils of the Bush administration even if we have to create it's evils....

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (37619)	7/23/2005 9:58:24 AM
From: jttmab	Respond to of 93284

Americans are a really strange sort. No other culture in history seems as dedicated to its own denigration. I would disagree with that assessment. I think the majority of Americans are: America is "right", period. It's relatively small group of people that will even acknowledge the less desirable moments in our history. As the producers of the show are well aware, not a single Muslim-American lost their life in this country in revenge for the murder of several thousand innocents on 9/11 I'm not sure that is true. I do know that there was an increase in hate crimes post 9/11 against Muslims. Not being a picky group, there was a Hindu that was killed; that was attributed to anti-Muslim...Hindu, Muslim what the hell...he was a rag-head and that was close enough. I'd have to go back to the FBI data to see whether there were any Muslims that were killed. But I would agree that the numbers were relatively small, and let you go to the FBI data on hate crimes to see if there were specific Muslim murders. What is behind this odd propensity of Americans to disparage their countrymen... I suppose you can start with the Founding Fathers who disparaged their countrymen and government, the British. What is behind this odd propensity of Americans to disparage their countrymen, even to the point that fictional characters and murders are created when reality doesn't cooperate with the stereotype? How does this make us look overseas, where the echoes of our trivial misdemeanors are often amplified into egregious crimes by government controlled media outlets? Trivial misdemeanors like supporting Pinochet, Saddam, the Shah. I don't think the countries overseas need any input from us. If the Islamic Republic of Sudan, which has killed and enslaved millions over the last two decades thinks it should be lecturing the U.S. over Abu Ghraib. The "standard" is always higher for those that preach freedom. That's the way it is, and IMO that's the way it should be. I don't particularly want the US standard to be set against the standard of Sudan. It becomes an obvious question of what our value [the value as it's in our foreign policy] really is. We oppose the tyranny of Iraq under Hussein...when he's anti-US. If he's pro-US we'll minimize his tyranny. The Shah is ok, but no Khomeni. Is it the tyranny we oppose or the anti-US attitude that we oppose? Bush fairly recently said that the US would no longer tolerate tyranny for the sake of stability. It looks to me like we're still tolerating tyranny in North Korea and Zimbabwe. jttmab