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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (64480)	7/25/2005 9:51:05 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

chinu. you said...."Which Imam except the one in Iran issued a fatwa against Salman Rushdie who made fun of the prophet. Show me a precedent here of a fatwa.".... koemeni was a radical islam nut. And just what gives this kind of nut the right to issue a death warrant on anyone. I don't know if Salman Rushdie made fun of the mohammed guy or not and care less. We live in a society that promotes free speech just like you preaching hatred towards your own President..you are able to do this because the free world allows free speech,,,if you were in komenie land and spoke about him as you do your own President you would be handed your own head on a platter. Wake up chinu, nut bars like komenie ARE the problem. It makes me sick to think that there are people in the world who may think that that puke komenie has the authority to issue a death warrant on a free citizen of the world.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (64480)	7/27/2005 6:35:39 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 81568

chinu... A way to slow in coming but common sense thinking is starting to appear in the way a free society will deal with radical moslums. Will we defend ourselves? July 27, 2005 Much ado in our country and Europe has been made about alleged mistreatment and torture of suspected terrorist prisoners. First, there were stories and hand-wringing over the treatment of prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison. More recently, Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., equated our military's treatment of captured Taliban and al-Qaida terrorist suspects, held at Guantanamo Bay, with something that would have "been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others – that had no concern for human beings." That statement not only demonstrates ignorance of the horrors committed by the Nazis, Soviets and Pol Pot, but it supplied ammunition for people seeking to destroy us. Regardless of how we feel now about the treatment of terrorists, and suspected terrorists, I can envision a day when Americans will care less about interrogation techniques used in the quest to get intelligence about terrorists. That day will be when there's a chemical or biological attack in one of our cities that kills and injures tens of thousands of Americans. If that day ever comes, you can bet the rent money that the Dick Durbins, the Nancy Pelosis and others who've undermined and attacked our interrogation efforts, complaining about our not treating international cutthroats humanely, will blame the attack on President Bush. The last thing they'll do is blame themselves for sabotaging our efforts to get intelligence that might stymie terrorist plans. It's tempting to invoke the Geneva Convention protections that are afforded prisoners of war. Geneva Convention protections did apply to Iraqi soldiers captured during our war with Iraq, but they do not apply to terrorists or even soldiers who are out of uniform. In earlier times, when common sense prevailed and we had the will to defend ourselves, that fact was understood and appreciated. During World War II, German soldiers captured not wearing their own army's uniforms were lined up and shot. In 1942, a German submarine landed eight Nazi saboteurs on the beaches of New York and Florida. Two months after a secret military tribunal, convened by President Roosevelt, six of the eight were executed, even though they hadn't killed or bombed anyone – just being here was enough. For those of us who were around during World War II, can we imagine anyone, much less a government high official, having said, "The treatment of detainees is a taint on our country's reputation, especially in Germany, and there are many questions that must be answered. These questions are important because the safety of our country depends on our reputation and how we are viewed, especially in Germany"? If you substitute "the Muslim world" for "Germany" in that statement, you have House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's, D-Calif., statement. Here's my question to you: If there's a biological or chemical terrorist attack, killing and wounding tens of thousands of Americans, how much would you care about "our reputation and how we are viewed in the Muslim world"? What will you think of leftist politicians, intellectuals and news media people preoccupied with whether we're treating Taliban and al-Qaida detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to the Geneva Convention? Let's be clear about one thing. I'm not suggesting that we treat captured terrorist suspects the way the Japanese treated American POWs during World War II. While harsh interrogation techniques are by no means a guarantee that useful information will be acquired to thwart a deadly attack, our interrogators should be permitted to employ every method at their disposal. There's an important terrorism issue for Muslim communities, especially those residing in Western countries. They should be concerned about backlash and retaliation against Muslims in the wake of a large-scale disaster. Muslims must in no uncertain terms make it clear, as have spokesmen for the Free Muslim Coalition (www.freemuslims.org), that the terrorists do not speak for them, and they must report terrorists within their communities. worldnetdaily.com