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To: GST who wrote (167346)	7/26/2005 5:46:14 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I am sorry but your posts are simply rambling and flawed in logic. There are many forms of tyranny. I am not tyrannising anyone and the USA does not employ a tyrannical form of Government. Once again, you are welcome to provide your evidence of my tyranny or heinous crimes that are widely condemned throughout the world... <sarcasm, we both know that is your BS> It would help to advance thread discussion if you could make some attempt to use words in their proper context, but feel free to do otherwise if you are unwilling or unable to employ sound reason.

To: GST who wrote (167346)	7/26/2005 6:25:01 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

"...to stem the drift toward civil war." latimes.com U.S. Nudges Iraq on Political Compromise By ROBERT H. REID Associated Press Writer 1:32 PM PDT, July 26, 2005 BAGHDAD, Iraq — With last weekend's arrival of a new ambassador, Washington is playing a more vigorous public role in defining its own image of a future Iraq and pushing factions toward political accommodation to stem the drift toward civil war. The tactic runs the risk of alienating many proud Iraqis -- already fed up after two years of unfulfilled promises, deteriorating security, unreliable power supplies, undrinkable water and checkpoint shootings. Even before Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad arrived, some members of Iraq's constitutional committee privately complained that the Americans and British were interfering in Iraqi internal affairs by pushing them to meet an Aug. 15 deadline for completing a draft charter. However, it is clear U.S. planners believe that wounded Iraqi pride is worth the risk. Sectarian tensions have sharpened since the Shiites and Kurds swept the Jan. 30 elections. The fear is that if the trend is not confronted, Iraq could descend into the civil war that Islamic zealots on the fringe of the insurgency seem eager to encourage. U.S. officials believe the best hope for stemming the decline is a broad-based, constitutional government that defends the interests of minority communities while accepting the reality of a nation where Shiite Arabs form 60 percent of the population. Such a government may, over time, encourage many in the formerly dominant Sunni Arab minority that they have a stake in the new Iraq and to abandon the mostly Sunni insurgency. The first step is for Iraq to produce a constitution acceptable to Shiites, Kurds, Sunni Arabs and other ethnic and cultural groups. That seems to be a top U.S. priority. Within hours of his arrival, Khalilzad was meeting with members of Iraq's constitutional committee, urging them to work "with a spirit of realism, flexibility and compromise." "It will take statesmanship" to finish an acceptable constitution, Khalilzad said in a statement Monday. "It will take compromises and a willingness by each faction and community to accept less than its maximum aspirations ... It is vital that a national compact be reached." Since the June 2004 transfer of sovereignty, such language has traditionally been delivered by American officials in private. Former Ambassador John Negroponte, now the U.S. intelligence czar, preferred a much lower profile after he replaced L. Paul Bremer, who governed Iraq under the occupation and who left the day sovereignty was transferred. With the formal end of the occupation, the U.S. line was that Iraq was a sovereign nation, much as numerous other countries where America maintains military forces. But with Iraq's Shiite-led government struggling, Washington appears ready for a higher leadership profile. During remarks to reporters Monday, Khalilzad spelled out in broad terms what the Americans expect for the new Iraq in terms of women's rights, regional autonomy and other hot-button issues.... --------- Iraq was supposed to be EASY now these idiot apologists for the Bush administration's lies say that we're in a new WW. Iraq was supposed to be so EASY that some even lobbied to do Iraq before doing Afghanistan. Now these same nitwits and their immoral apologists are making absurd new arguments in the face of their incomptence, greed and criminality.

To: GST who wrote (167346)	7/26/2005 6:27:13 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You are one sick puppy or do i mean yuppy. Grow up GST and get a wife or something. The US was the country who was attacked and is the country who is trying, albeit clumsily, to bring a better life for the arabs and muslims. You would havae them back in sadams prison or the women dressed in those black outfits and subject to rape and abuse. Do you drive your BMW to the demonstrations?

To: GST who wrote (167346)	7/27/2005 9:12:59 AM
From: Keith Feral	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Look at Saudi hegemony. They are the meanest people of the face of the earth, terrorizing the world with their salafi self righteousness. They have spread their wahhab doctrines to external populations of Muslims to overwhelm their local traditions with brutal oppression and tradition. They have exported their sociopaths to foreign countries where they are Talibans, Al Quaeda, insurgents, and serial killers. They kill everyone in the name of God to put a spin on their blood thirsty death games. There are so many evil people in this world. It's kind of ridiculous to say the US is the only country with aggressive policies. I'm not going to engage in the battle of wits over cause and effect. It's nice to recognize at least some of the blame of the terrorists and their roots. Don't ya think?