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Politics : Karl Rove: A mastermind or a liability for George Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: ChinuSFO who wrote (46)7/26/2005 8:00:51 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 255
 
What crapola.....



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (46)7/26/2005 10:00:34 PM
From: Dan B.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 255
 
jlallen and I just demolished GST's assertion that Bush Switched his standard concerning Leaking from within his administration. You've just offered no reply, but instead offer an article which states "This is an administration based on lies from its very inception, when it took office through the theft of the 2000 presidential election, hijacked by the Supreme Court intervention to shut down ballot-counting in Florida."

In fact, the the only ballot-counting "hijacked" was a Florida Court inspired counting which the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 was unconstitutional. Yes, that's 7-2, and it's a wonder the issue didn't take the supremes to a 9-0 decision at that. The writer essentially claims a 7-2 Supreme Court Decision was a "hijacking." This is ludicrous.

The writer of your posted article also apparently believes in conspiracy theories, to wit: "The least credible of all accounts of 9/11 is the official story that 19 predominantly Saudi terrorists entered the United States and carried out an intricately organized attack involving multiple hijackings..." and "...September 11, 2001, an event which has been the subject of the greatest campaign of distortion and cover-up in US history."

Good lord, without an actual response to the point at all, and an offering like this, why anyone should take your point of view save you, I don't know.

Dan B.



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (46)7/26/2005 10:53:24 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 255
 
Not that I want to engage the "facts and logic" crowd, but:

Q Given -- given recent developments in the CIA leak case, particularly Vice President Cheney's discussions with the investigators, do you still stand by what you said several months ago, a suggestion that it might be difficult to identify anybody who leaked the agent's name?

THE PRESIDENT: That's up to --

Q And, and, do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes. And that's up to the U.S. Attorney to find the facts.
whitehouse.gov

McClellan's record is much more entertaining, though.

Q All right. Let me just follow up. You said this morning, "The President knows" that Karl Rove wasn't involved. How does he know that?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I've made it very clear that it was a ridiculous suggestion in the first place. I saw some comments this morning from the person who made that suggestion, backing away from that. And I said it is simply not true. So, I mean, it's public knowledge. I've said that it's not true. And I have spoken with Karl Rove --

Q But how does --

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm not going to get into conversations that the President has with advisors or staff or anything of that nature; that's not my practice.

Q But the President has a factual basis for knowing that Karl Rove --

MR. McCLELLAN: I said it publicly. I said that --

Q But I'm not asking what you said, I'm asking if the President has a factual basis for saying -- for your statement that he knows Karl Rove --

MR. McCLELLAN: He's aware of what I've said, that there is simply no truth to that suggestion. And I have spoken with Karl about it.
whitehouse.gov

My understanding is that the current line from the paragons of "personal responsibility" in the WH is that it's all a nefarious attempt to smear the noble Rove, who apparently has been given shelter in W's buck-free inner sanctum for the duration.