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To: Moominoid who wrote (66658)7/28/2005 10:00:24 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Brazilian's family claim police altered their story. he was wearing a lightweight denim jacket and not some bulky coat that could have hidden an explosive belt underneath.
By Daniel McGrory


timesonline.co.uk
THE family of the Brazilian man shot dead by marksmen who mistook him for a suicide bomber revealed last night how police have changed their account of the incident.
As the body of Jean Charles de Menezes was flown home to Brazil for his funeral later today, his cousin said that senior officers at Scotland Yard have retracted claims that the 27-year-old electrician was acting suspiciously, so officers had no option but to open fire.


Vivien Figueiredo, 22, said police told her that he was wearing a lightweight denim jacket and not some bulky coat that could have hidden an explosive belt underneath. Detectives also claimed immediately after the shooting that Mr Menezes had refused to heed shouted warnings by armed police and vaulted the ticket barriers at Stockwell Tube station.

Now police say that he used his travelcard to gain access to the station. Ms Figueiredo said: “They are saying he did absolutely nothing wrong when he was killed, so why don’t they say all this publicly.”

Police shot the electrician seven times in the head and once in the shoulder at point-blank range.

The family claim that Mr Menezes’s death forced Scotland Yard to change its shoot-to-kill orders. In yesterday’s arrest in Birmingham, the family point out that police used a Taser stun gun. They want to know why a similar weapon was not used last Friday.

Ms Figueiredo also expressed anger at reports that one of the officers involved in the fatal shooting had gone on holiday with his family, paid for by the Metropolitan Police.

She said: “It is not right that this person should now be enjoying his holiday when we are suffering.”

Alex Pereira, 27, another cousin accompanying the coffin on the flight home, said: “The officer must be brought back and show the world he did something wrong”. Senior officers emphasised that the independent investigation into the incident was continuing.

A vigil marking one week since Mr Menezes’s death will take place at 5.30pm on Friday in Parliament Square. A service will be held at Westminster Cathedral at the same time as his funeral in Brazil.




To: Moominoid who wrote (66658)7/28/2005 4:20:32 PM
From: Elroy Jetson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Regarding the London explosives.

If you've ever taken chemistry you'll recall how difficult it is to faithfully reproduce many compounds, especially when the finished product is a solid.

A non-profit, where I was a Board Member, funded the creation of a number of biochemical compounds. Even with very skilled chemists we often ended up with "soup" than the compound we wanted because the temperature or other minor variable was not exactly right. Being successful once is not a good predictor of future success.

The advantage of the explosive used, triacetone peroxide, is that it can be made from easily obtainable chemicals and it is not detected by explosive sniffers on a chip because it is not nitrogen based.

Some have said that triacetone peroxide degrades over time. I don't know to what extent this is true, but often this type of degradation is accelerated by exposure to moisture or other compounds.
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