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To: Constant Reader who wrote (38625)	7/29/2005 10:35:26 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

But I am always willing to define things, at the beginning, middle or end. And, of course, sometimes the way we think something is defined isn't really necessarily the way it needs to be defined, or the way people in other parts of the world might define it. Definitions are always tricky. I'm always willing to start any discussion with a look at definitions first. Sometimes that's the most interesting part os a discussion for me. I don't think there is much "effective" communication on SI (but of course that comes down to what you mean by effective- and I mean "Having an intended or expected effect"), so that really isn't an issue for me, except that it perpetually surprises me.

To: Constant Reader who wrote (38625)	7/29/2005 10:43:37 AM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

Unfortunately, the interests of effective communication are not well-served when the people having the conversation discover half way through that generally accepted definitions of common terms are not applicable to your comments, as has happened recently. first of all, do not necessarily assume effective communication is the goal here... witness the liberal usage of: "fine" "ok" "thanks for sharing" :) but specifically to your point, the inability to agree to accepted definitions of words leads, imo, inability to construct logical arguments and ultimately to what is called 'reductio ad absurdum' a worthless exercise