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To: twmoore who wrote (18466)	7/29/2005 9:25:48 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 20773

Not really, but everyone thinks you might finally actually follow in the semi-large multiple feet and trails of B.C., kind of back to the future, another new somewhat more major modern attempt. (Wales, both Irelands, Scotland, even Australia and especially NZ has already done it) citizensassembly.bc.ca IMPROVING DEMOCRACY IN B.C. However, nobody demanded, nor hoped, every Canadian would understand anything nor nothing of it. (long term, multi-generational plan, as it already went so wrong for 300 years) You should send those B.C. Citizen Assembly citizens to say hello to Afghanistan too, although they already kind of got it, but they, just like most of Canada, does not trust it. They might have more success in Afghanistan than in Canada?? major shoot-and-kill stuff on even canadians in Afghanistan. (Iraq seems to be fairly happy with the possible long term future of BC.CA..??) PS Sorry, little Malta also did it, as did Ghana, just as almost any nation but for some two-three

To: twmoore who wrote (18466)	7/29/2005 9:51:30 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 20773

If 160 randomly selected BC canadians get it in just some 40-60 hours, six weekends,how long will it take for the rest, or at least 60% of the canadians?? (one must also consider that some 4-10% will be buried much before the evolution will be a fact) Even South Africa too admits you are making some virtual progress. ->learning resources -> learning materials and Introduction Week1 Week2 Week3 Week4 Week5 Week6 Audio and Video citizensassembly.bc.ca Lecture 24-27, week 5 and 6 were fun Week 5, Session 1: March 6, 2004. Questions and announcements open the Assembly's fifth weekend. David Farrell, of the University of Manchester (England), reviews electoral system changes in both recently instituted and established democracies. Farrell wrote the book the Assembly is using as a reference text. Part 24a: Video - Windows Media Player format view (36Mb, 49 m) Part 24b: Video - Windows Media Player format view (32Mb, 45m) Part 24: Audio - MP3 format listen (17Mb, 1h 35m) Week 5, Session 2: March 6, 2004. At the start of this clip, the Assembly hears about the public hearings communications plan. Elizabeth McLeay of Victoria University in Wellington, New Zealand, speaks to the Assembly about the effects of changing electoral systems. Part 25: Video - Windows Media Player format view (51.7Mb, 1h 17m) Part 25: Audio - MP3 format listen (13.8Mb, 1h 17m) Visiting experts McLeay and Farrell join Assembly research staff in a question and answer period. Part 26: Video - Windows Media Player format view (38.7Mb, 57m) Part 26: Audio - MP3 format listen (10.3Mb, 57m) Week 5, Session 3: March 7, 2004. This clip is an introduction to the members' Preliminary Statement . Part 27: Video - Windows Media Player format view (8Mb, 12m) Part 27: Audio - MP3 format listen (2.1Mb, 12m) Members report back on their discussion groups' findings about the pros and cons of our current electoral system. A summary of these reports is presented and members comment on the Citizens' Assembly process so far. Part 28: Video - Windows Media Player format view (45.2Mb, 1h 07m) Part 28: Audio - MP3 format listen (12Mb, 1h 07m)

To: twmoore who wrote (18466)	7/29/2005 10:03:34 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 20773

How come BC came up with that 60 vs 40% rule?? I have always thought even some 4-8% of insurgents are enough in any opposition. However, I admit, we are going by the 5/6 vs 1/6th rule, but with some additional stuff about 0.1%.of the population (appr 4,000, just like those in Iraq) Was that why 160 random citizens, six weekends were not yet successful?? (1,600 random citizens, 160 weekends??UK is, maybe soon, doing much better after only 60x52 = some 3,000 weekends, they even claim it as another major (failed) victory on domestic terrism) Me too likes CBC.. citizensassembly.bc.ca and Oscar lp2cd.com ..

To: twmoore who wrote (18466)	7/29/2005 10:34:57 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 20773

Sorry, Oscar, maybe this unfortunately clicking-demanding link is better lp2cd.com Click that warped whirling thing on the right, or wherever it is. It actually goes very well with those 13 minutes and six weeks, considering the outcome. lp2cd.com works globally, no?? yo-yo-elections?? Note, I do not claim 99% of canadians are brain-demented, it is just the same old 300 year habit, actually only half-demented. (strange stuff, 60% vs 40%, plus 13 minutes, come shine or rain)