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To: neolib who wrote (128605)7/30/2005 8:42:07 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793779
 
but I think there is reason to address the issues that produce them.

The "issues" that produce them are from a single source, The Koran. You obviously think they are caused by other things.



To: neolib who wrote (128605)7/30/2005 9:19:05 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793779
 
>>With the jihadis there is no use talking.

Perhaps with the currently minted ones, but I think there is reason to address the issues that produce them.


neolib, this Lileks quote is just right for you:

Some believe that the bombings in London, like the ones in Madrid, can be blamed on Bush and Blair for the Iraq campaign. It’s always interesting to see how people who pride themselves on sophisticated analyses and exquisitely tuned cultural sensibilities cannot see the plain home truths. The foe sneers: you are infidels; you die now. The moderns pull a face, steeple their fingers, and wonder what they really mean.

May I suggest, before looking to every horizon for underlying causes, that it makes good sense to listen to the jihadis themselves and take seriously what they themselves say about their goals?



To: neolib who wrote (128605)7/30/2005 10:18:11 PM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793779
 
Religious nutcases occasionally come around. Here in the West we have many from one group that once committed quite a crime (Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857) that are now model citizens, in fact one of my Senators is of that religion

You're seriously comparing Mormons to Muslim fundamentalists?

Mountain Meadows wasn't religiously-motivated, BTW. But you probably knew that, and think the jihadis aren't religiously motivated either.

Derek