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To: elmatador who wrote (66745)	7/30/2005 11:03:15 PM
From: Moominoid	Respond to of 74559

I agree that it is silly to cause oneself problems... on the other hand at some point how much should you change your lifestyle to conform? But often people think stands should be taken on issues of rights/principles, which are really trivial and not important while ignoring the big picture. My original point is that it is easy for the police to generate suspects to show they are doing something. So I never pay attention to that until someone is put on trial. Here in Albany they did a sting operation against some Pakistanis. Something about funding the purchase of a missile. There was no missile but the police got these people into a deal with them and then arrested them. Undercover police handler pretending to be Al Qaeda - hands out fake bombs that don't work? Maybe I'm getting too paranoid.

To: elmatador who wrote (66745)	7/30/2005 11:25:29 PM
From: shades	Respond to of 74559

"People think that they have rights and that other parties will always see that they are innocent, they'd get cleared no matter the situation one would be. " One of my ukraine friends, he was poor russian boy in ukraine orphanage and good friend of mine adopt him and bring him over to the USA give him a shot at the good life - well he get USED to american ways and forget his childhood in ukraine - meet this mexican girl - follow her back down to mexico - 2 months later sitting in mexican jail he have an attitude change and no longer expect people to put up with his BULLSHIT and his RIGHTS that he thought he had. It didn't last though El Mat - after being back in the USA a time - he is back to being same cocky onboxious fuc* he was before he left that got him in the mexican jail to begin with - I already say many times people in mexico very low key - I was not worried about the citizens killing me - just the military - but as soon as I cross back over to the states there was a shooting and murder at the bus station in alberqurque NM from the citizens. It was like going from a quiet controlled prison population (mexico) with order to a war zone chaos (USA) I am beginning to have many reservations about a culture that encourages this type of disrespect for fellow citizens - I liked the ukraine friends new mexican influenced attitude - hate is old american attitude coming back. I see mexican illegal street gangs blowing my fellow citizens away here in this country, but I did not get the impression they were doing that back home in mexico - the culture there kept that BS under much better control it seemed - at least the places I visited.