Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Pastimes : The Philosophical Porch -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rarebird who wrote (111)	7/31/2005 11:11:35 PM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 26251

<I would define Christianity as the desire for an eternal happiness> Along with Buddhism and Hinduism. <Think for yourself. It is not wise to trust someone else's vision> Oh, trusting anothers view doesn't mean a lack ones own thinking!! You check out their experiences and see what you think... personally I can't trust without lots of leg work on something like this... OTOH, did you have to wait to see pictures to trust the planet was round? How do you even know there are other planets until someone told you?? It's all a matter of context of course. <There are many other great metaphysical visions of the universe which contradict the Christian view> I don't know who you're talking about, but IMO the descriptions by Christ, Krishna, the Buddha and dozens of other mystics including Saint Francis, Meister Eckhart, Ramana Maharshi, Hang Po, other zen masters, and even Eckhart Tolle and Dr. David Hawkins are very similar. When you say "The Christian View" I assume you mean the 'cannonized' version of church. All the church's views have been translated and changed through the years by those who couldn't possibly understand what the original teachings were about, let alone the fact that politics, power, and other egoic effects not present in the saints and sages, made up what is known today as 'the church'. I don't think it matters much which one, altough I'm speaking of the Roman Catholic version. When one reads the new testiment it's clear Jesus experience is similar to all the others, which are remarkably similar. IMO Christianity has been especially badly effected as far as translation through the ages. So don't get me wrong... I don't think god is 'out there' coming back to judge 'some day'... god is the unified field no doubt. Then you can look at a Psychological chart of emotions, and read a couple basic books on psychology and find remarkably similar techniques and verbage of any Buddhist text. <How do you know if what you saw was just based on your desire to see it ahead of time? > "It's not what you see, it's how you see it"- any bonified mystic, Jesus or the Buddha, etc. :)) It should be noted that this is exactly what is being discussed at the moment in quantum physics. Some intellectuals are going to be very dissapointed to find out that to understand the unified field they'll need to experience it... others are already out reading Hang Po and the likes of Dr. David Hawkins. DAK

To: Rarebird who wrote (111)	8/1/2005 7:10:46 PM
From: software salesperson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 26251

I have studied all the Catholic proofs for the existence of God and the Lutheran, Kantian and Existential refutations hopefully, you also read hume's "dialogues concerning natural religion." for those unfamiliar with the book, it is written in dialogue form (not as good as plato's, but still spectacular)and presents, and then refutes, the main cosmological (based on what we experience or observe- - to misuse a term, a posteriori) and ontological (not based on what we observe or experience- - to misuse another term, a priori)arguments of its day. the book is still relevant(some 250 years later!)to today's debate between creationism and darwinism. i'm never sure what the proposed argument for creationism is since there rarely seems to be what would be considered an attempt at a philosophical argument. the best type of creationist argument would be an attempted resuscitation of one of the cosmological arguments presented in the dialogues, specifically, some version of the "argument from design." hume, regarded as the greatest skeptic in the history of philosophy, was an agnostic. it is worth noting this apocryphal story: on his deathbed, hume was asked if he wanted to recant. his reply: "has the evidence changed?" sales