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To: Grainne who wrote (107075)	8/1/2005 9:56:47 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

thought this might interest you: Adolescents bulk up their bodies By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY Mon Aug 1, 6:53 AM ET In the largest study to date on adolescents' views of their bodies and their use of hormones and supplements, one in eight boys and one in 12 girls reported using such products in the past year to improve their appearance, muscle mass or strength. Based on a nationwide survey of more than 10,000 adolescents, the study, out Monday in the journal Pediatrics, shows a high rate of concern about body image in both boys and girls and finds that teens who worry about body image are much more likely to use hormones and dietary supplements to try to enhance their physiques. Almost 5% of teenage boys and 2% of girls use potentially unhealthy products ranging from protein powders to growth hormone and injectable steroids at least weekly to improve appearance or strength. "The take-home message here is that we really need to think about body-image dissatisfaction in boys as well as girls," says Alison Field, a Harvard Medical School professor of pediatrics and lead researcher on the study. "Both are influenced by the images they see in the media, which can be unrealistically thin for girls and unrealistically muscular for boys." The research was conducted using data from Harvard's ongoing study titled Growing Up Today. It includes 6,212 girls and 4,237 boys ages 12 to 18. Teens who told researchers they "frequently" thought about wanting more defined muscles and made a lot of effort to look like figures in the media were more than three times as likely as peers to use products to build muscle or improve their appearance. The most commonly used products were protein powders and shakes. Others, used mostly by boys, included creatine, amino acids, the amino-acid metabolite HMB, the hormone dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), growth hormone and anabolic steroids. Protein powders are probably relatively safe, but steroids have known health effects, and much less is known about creatine and growth hormones, particularly in young people, Field says. "You really don't want them using anything unless you know it's safe," she says. As Americans overall become fatter and further away from the thin, toned body that society considers ideal, teens increasingly are turning to extreme behaviors to achieve what often is unachievable, says Dianne Neumark-Sztainer, an epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota and author of I'm, Like, So Fat! Helping Your Teen Make Healthy Choices About Eating and Exercise in a Weight-Obsessed World. For example, images of male models in advertisements are often shaded to make their bodies look as if they have more muscle definition, Field says. "Parents have to help teens understand that they're comparing themselves to an image that isn't real."

To: Grainne who wrote (107075)	8/1/2005 7:33:50 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I've mentioned the Hebron massacre because it was relatively early (before the founding of the Irgun etc) and particularly brutal thus demonstrating the zionism is the root of all evil in Palestine line you seem to have swallowed. "The Arabs living in Palestine were a peaceful people. They had absolutely nothing to do with oppressing Jews." It was Palestinian Arabs who wiped out the ancient Hebron community - not a Zionist settlement, but a long-established religious community. This indicates the peaceful non-oppressive Palestinian is a myth. "are you aware that the wall often separates Palestinian children from their schools, families from their relatives, and men from their farms and jobs? Do you have any idea that it takes several hours each way to navigate the wall? Would you like a work day that just had maybe ten hours added to it? Do you think you would be able to get an education, or support your family? The wall is an insane, inhumane barrier to life. " You neglect to mention the campaign of terror bombing within Israel the wall was built to stifle. The problems you mention are minor compared to the slaughter of civilians that had taken place for a long time prior to construction of the wall. Since you only care about Palestinian life in the ME, you should realize that the more terror attacks are prevented, the fewer Israelis counter-attacks (and thus Palestinian deaths) will occur. So you ought to be happy about the wall - its a nonviolent way to prevent terrorism. No, I had no comment on the Pope. I am not Catholic. I don't believe he is a fervent anti-Israeli though. "And I am sure that there are civilized countries where they would all be allowed to live in if everyone voluntarily vacated Israel. " I doubt it - that's a lot of people to absorb - but its moot now - when a haven was needed there was none: cdn-friends-icej.ca Here's a link of the Evian conference from a far left website which may be acceptable to you - it conludes the same: socialistworker.co.uk Western governments held a conference in Evian, France, in 1938 to send an unmistakable message to eastern European governments and their Jewish populations that Jewish immigrants and refugees would not be accepted by Britain, France or the US. The Nazi press was clear about the meaning of Evian: “No state is prepared to fight the cultural disgrace of Central Europe by accepting a few thousand Jews. Thus the conference serves to justify Germany’s policy against Jewry.” Hostility to fleeing Jewish refugees did not stop with the war. Neutral Sweden proposed in 1943 that if Britain and the US were willing to pay the costs and agree to looking after them after the war, there was the possibility of 20,000 Jewish children being released from central Europe to Sweden. A US state department official wrote, “Any rescue concentrating on Jewish children might antagonise the Nazis and prevent other possible co-operative acts.” There is a long history of Jews being made refugees by persecution: answers.com And there is little reason to think the future may be different based on what is going on in places like France today. "I hate bloodshed of any kind--I won't eat meat because it is murder. The waste of human life is extremely sad to me. The problem is that when a state is occupied by people who invaded it and confiscated the property of those who lived there--Israel and Northern Ireland are two examples I can think of--the natives really have absolutely no choice except to defend their rights with terrorism, because they cannot raise regular armed forces. " It's pretty clear to me you don't hate bloodshed as much as you think. "Do you not believe in the right of people to defend themselves if they are invaded? Would you lie down and watch someone steal your property and hurt your family, just let it all wash over you and become a victim? I do not think we can expect this of people." Defense is one thing. But deliberately targeting non-combatants, including women and children, goes beyond defense. In response to 911, I was very strongly supportive of going after the terrorists and every government which gave them haven. But I did not go blow up the Pakistani-owned convenience store near my home. That is the equivalent of what the terrorists are doing.