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To: arun gera who wrote (34624)	8/1/2005 12:15:00 AM
From: shades	Respond to of 116555

I gave the example of the low skilled job to show that even at the corresponding low annual income, the percentage left on the table by the illegal for other US economy stakeholders in commercial transactions is high enough to cover any extra costs of healthcare incurred by the rest of the US economy. I see costs and dollars and such bantered about, but you can only absorb so much culture at a time, I am not even against the melting pot, that gives many strengths and we can take the best things from all the cultures and build a new superior society that better serves the world and its citizens - but this is not what I am seeing "in certain areas" A known third world culture that is very backwards in most ways of measuring civilized educated socities is being allowed to overtake something I deem better. It is like mold overtaking your beautiful ceramic tile floor - some naturists may say oh but that is better, even if it kills your lungs and is ugly and makes your child die - that is what mother nature intends and a living thing, but no I want the beautiful clean tile floor for my children to live on - so the mold has to be eradicted - the people can be educated and given a boost to thier lives - but not while we let the mold of their old culture seep in and keep them from breathing fresh new clean air. I went to mexico, I want them to have the nice things of my society, but then I come back to palm beach and see they are importing their bad stuff over to what once was a top global city. I post a link TB is coming with them. Imagine ROME of the past, had they been able to lift up atilla the hun and all the hordes to the roman way of life instead rome fell and the hordes took them down and world development was set back. Always better to bring everyone up into the ivory towers than let the towers be raised and the library of alexandria burned because the people there didn't stop it. You know you are taking about two different markets. As you may know, the immigrant (in his first five years of arrival) is very ready to move to seek the best paying market. That is true, one went to mississippi to make the big bucks, no spanish speakers, too hard on his quality of life he told me, so he came back to palm beach to be around spanish speakers. Now he has no incentive to learn english. Before to stay alive or compete he would have been forced into it. Look I can relate, I wouldn't want to stay in mexico because I don't know the customs and cultures and language - but when I was in france and germany I also did not know those things initially and it did not seem to bother me near as much as mexico - it being 3rd world definitely was the bigger drawback than it being foreign. I don't want the third world coming here - I need its people, I don't need its negatives though. The college educated landscaper is probably too tied down to move out of South Georgia. Why don't you inform him aboutthe job opportunities in your neighborhood? Hehe I did, but he does not want just money, all his family is back there and he will not leave. Again see we get into quality of life type issues that transcend money and costs. You can design laws and legislation to breed out the negative things in these little mexicos - or you can turn the other cheek - let them continue to grow with the influx of ever increasing immigrants - and watch your ivory tower slowly be raized. Shades, you are a smart guy who pretends to play dumb. I love your style(s) of writing (the hedonistic redneck is a great persona, He He He) Thank you very much for the kind words but I am really pretty dumb, otherwise I wouldn't drink as much as I do and then come to SI to post half intoxicated - hehe - hiccup. It beats cruising the highways. These are real people, these rednecks I speak of live mostly in south georgia. Some of their ancestors had similar problems - came over from ireland in the potato crisis or were native american descendants - viewed with contempt from the elites - left to form indian reservations or little irelands - bad national policy I fear - they just kept the cycle of ignorance going and going - did not improve themselves or thier environment - great people though - big hearts, I love them to death, but where could we be if things were different. I want to live in the star trek society - not gonna happen with all these negative social issues. Wont break out of thier rut unless forced it seems, not smart enough to know the benefits that come with modern society. Rome wasn't built in a day, but come on, we have 2cnd and third generation people that still aren't up to par, how much time does it take? I wish more took a stand against the importation of the culture, but too many want to say the people and the culture are inseperable - I think that is total crap.