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To: SiouxPal who wrote (1413)	8/1/2005 8:56:37 PM
From: Ron	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24213

The anti-hunt for Osama bin Laden: pastpeak.com Today the White House instituted a new don't ask, don't tell policy. The bad news — it's for Supreme Court nominees...The White House announced that the public would not be allowed see the memos produced by John Roberts when he represented the United States government as a lawyer. They say this is because of the attorney-client privilege. Here's the part I don't understand — he represented the United States. We're the client, he's our lawyer. Shouldn't we be allowed to see our own notes? — Jay Leno pastpeak.com

To: SiouxPal who wrote (1413)	8/1/2005 9:05:12 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 24213

SPITEFULLY RECKLESS Now that a number of reporters for national news outlets are going out of their way to attack senior White House adviser Karl Rove, one has to wonder what they could be thinking given the number of news stories these same reporters broke from the same kind of conversations Time magazine writer Matthew Cooper purportedly had with Rove on that fateful day two years ago. Never mind that much of former Ambassador Joe Wilson's supposed Niger "intelligence" was largely revealed to be baseless, or that a number of reporters who socialized with him and his friends at the time knew exactly where his wife was and what she did at the CIA. "What Rove appears to have done was something half of the Clinton White House was doing almost every day to Republicans on the Hill if we got the chance," says a Washington lobbyist who worked at 1600 during Clinton's first term. "We pushed gossip about Newt [Gingrich]; we badmouthed Grover [Norquist]; we did what we thought they were doing to us." And of course, they pushed stories and story leads. "I just don't see what -- beyond their screwing with Rove -- this accomplishes. And I gotta believe that there are people on our side pushing this thing, and if they are, it's not smart," say the former Clinton staffer. "This kind of thing has a way of biting you on the ass. That 60 Minutes II story on Bush's military record should be on everyone's mind right now. I don't think the media wants anyone looking into how they develop stories, and this is where this Rove thing is going." spectator.org

To: SiouxPal who wrote (1413)	8/1/2005 9:14:46 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24213

GUANTANAMO JOE Maybe Sen. Joe Biden has some political sense, but his staff sure doesn't. Last week, Cuban dictator Fidel Castro gave a speech commemorating the 52nd anniversary of the assault on the "Moncada" and "Carlos Manuel de Cespedes" garrisons during the Marxist revolution. In the speech, which was largely a typical anti-American screed, Castro pounded away on the U.S. detention of terrorists in Guantanamo Bay: "One of Bush's most cynical measures was to use the Guantanamo naval base, which the United States occupies illegally against our people's will, to set up a concentration camp where he locks up, without trial or any kind of legal process, those whom he kidnaps anywhere in the world. And to top it all, that prison was turned into an experimental center of torture, the same as those later applied in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq." Later, Castro cited Biden to buttress his argument: "Democratic senator Joseph Biden, of the Foreign Relations Committee, said that the Guantanamo naval base had become the 'greatest propaganda tool that exists for recruiting of terrorists around the world.'" No sooner was Castro's speech available online than Democratic Foreign Relations committee staffers were emailing it around, seemingly proud that Biden was being taken seriously as a world leader. "These are the same people who think John Bolton is a problem, and they think a Biden mention by Castro is a good thing," says a Republican staffer on the committee. "That's all you need to know." spectator.org