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To: Road Walker who wrote (244676)	8/3/2005 1:49:47 PM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571807

Call me pessimistic if you like, I've been pessimistic from the start. The optimists thought this would be a cake walks, and the troops would have been home a year now. You're discussing the current Iraq situation as executed by GB. I'm discussing the theoretical idea of democratizing the Arab world in order to eliminate the reasons why Al Qaeda and its ilk use terrorist methods to "advance" their goals. It's not the same thing. Its possible to attempt to democratize the Arab world without any war. Just keep the appropriate pressure up, and have a united worldwide commitment for it. If the UN weren't such a useless mess it should be one of their stated goals.

To: Road Walker who wrote (244676)	8/3/2005 2:57:03 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571807

Call me pessimistic if you like, I've been pessimistic from the start. The optimists thought this would be a cake walks, and the troops would have been home a year now. The optimists were wrong and are still wrong. Well said. There is something weird about this unbridled optimism. Its the equivalent of a person looking at Detroit and saying that in 5 years, the entire city will be affluent. No one would ever do that......they'd be laughed out of the room. But I guess because Iraq is 10K miles away, the neocons are willing to raise purpled fingers to a president who got an A in bike riding and an A- in frisbee throwing and make such claims. ted