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To: D. Long who wrote (129564)	8/3/2005 4:27:25 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793822

The state dictating what children are to believe is a clear violation of the 1st.

To: D. Long who wrote (129564)	8/3/2005 7:50:32 PM
From: briskit	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 793822

Isn't it possible to have a debate about evolution using the current scientific literature pointing out the difficulties with evolution, without making it about "creationism and fundamentalists"? I realize that raising this question makes me a suspected fundamentalist. Nonetheless, there is a significant body of literature discussing problems with certain aspects evolution, or am I wrong? That discussion about the scientific evidence and debate would be quite educational, rather than requiring a wholesale commitment to any particular ideology, creationist or materialistic. If ID implies a "higher being" the debate certainly does not need to be allowed or denied based on "implications." Leave the philosophical and metaphysical discussions and implications for those interested to conduct them. Let science consider data and various theoretical understandings. Sure certain fundamentalists would be happy for something other than evolution to have an exclusive position in education, but that is no reason to exclude broader discussions.