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To: Rambi who wrote (129607)8/3/2005 6:42:22 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793835
 
Hi Rambi, I've gotta run, but check out O'reilly talking point video clip.

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To: Rambi who wrote (129607)8/3/2005 8:44:58 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793835
 
Gee, I did not see it as confused at all. It made perfect sense to me. Intelligent Design seems a far more rational reasonable and scientific explanation than purely faith based evolution. Intelligent Design does not violate the laws of thermodynamics. Actually any God inclusion theory does not violate the laws of thermodynamics.

I found this that prattles on about entropy.

One can generalise further. Thanks to the mathematical relation between disorder and probability, it is possible to speak of evolution toward an increase in entropy by using one or the other of two statements: "left to itself, an isolated system tends toward a state of maximum disorder" or "left to itself, an isolated system tends toward a state of higher probability." (this is illustrated most simply by the example of the box with two compartments). These equivalent expressions can be summarized:

* Potential energy -> entropy
* Ordered energy -> disorganized energy (heat)
* High-quality energy -> heat (low-grade energy)
* Order -> disorder
* Improbability -> probability

The concepts of entropy and irreversibility, derived from the second principle, have had a tremendous impact on our view of the universe. In breaking the vicious circle of repetitiveness in which the ancients were trapped, and in being confronted with biological evolution generating order and organization, the concept of entropy indirectly opens the way to a philosophy of progress and development (see: the direction of evolution). At the same time it introduces the complementarity between the "two great drifts of the universe" described in the works of Bergson and Teilhard de Chardin.

The image of the inexorable death of the universe, as suggested by the second principle, has profoundly influenced our philosophy, our ethics, our vision of the world, and even our art. The thought that by the very nature of entropy the ultimate and only possible future for man is annihilation has infiltrated our culture like a paralysis. This consideration led Leon Brillouin to ask, "How is it possible to understand life when the entire world is ordered by a law such as the second principle of thermodynamics, which points to death and annihilation?"

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