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To: LindyBill who wrote (129622)8/3/2005 8:35:12 PM
From: briskit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793832
 
debate that the earth is more than a few thousand years old. "God" did it this way, and we can't know more.

Sorry, but I have not heard serious arguments in either of these directions. Are these not rather extreme carictures of "the bad guys?" Of course there are uninformed, and no doubt superstitious, people that want to go in those directions. I don't know of science teachers like that, and I do not believe I have heard any discussion on that level. That's a politicized argument, forgive me for saying so, on the sidelines of the science argument, for it's own purposes. Boy, I am really sounding like a fundamentalist now. O well, let the discussions cease.



To: LindyBill who wrote (129622)8/3/2005 10:21:21 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793832
 
By what logic do you proffer that ID says, "we would say that "God" did it this way, and we can't know more."

ID in no way precludes understanding what we do not understand now, at some time in the future. I can see no logic in proffer ID suggests one cannot figure out in the future what we do not understand now. To me ID says, God somehow arranged it and we do not fully understand yet how it is arranged. But it works.

ID is the only route I know now that does not violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. At the nutty Quantrum Physics level how does one explain how trillions of atoms organized themselves into a gene that is part of cell that can duplicate itself doubling it's complexity. That's one of many millions of monster gaps in evolution.



To: LindyBill who wrote (129622)8/4/2005 9:39:09 AM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793832
 
I believe that is a fundamental misunderstanding of ID ( and I really don't consider myself an advocate of ID )

If we went the route of "ID," we would say that "God" did it this way, and we can't know more.

I have not heard an ID advocate say we should stop researching anything.