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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (39249)8/4/2005 9:29:03 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Rap is NOT music. It has no melody [change of pitches] (one of the three basic ingredients of MUSIC).



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (39249)8/4/2005 9:29:49 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 93284
 
They Said That?!-Media Research Center's Best Notable Quotables by liberal journalists
Jewish Press ^ | 12-24-03 | Brent Baker and Rich Noyes

And The Winner Is... MRC’s Quote of the Year:

“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”

– Charles Pierce in a January 5 Boston Globe Magazine article.

Kopechne died of lack of oxygen while trapped in Kennedy’s submerged car off Chappaquiddick Island in July 1969, an accident Kennedy did not report until the next morning. (She did NOT die of drowning---she had her head and neck twisted upward into the air pocket at the top of the upside down car and died in that position with little or no water in her lungs---the coroner said she died of oxygen deprivation---the oxygen in the air pocket ran out)

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The Media Research Center (MRC) is out with its annual “Best Notable Quotables,” a compendium of the most outrageously biased and unintentionally humorous statements made by liberal journalists during the past year (December 2002 through November 2003). The following represents an extensive sampling of what passes for objective reporting and trenchant analysis in today’s media culture.
Ashcroft, American Torquemada

“Attorney General John Ashcroft has earned himself a remarkable distinction as the Torquemada of American law. Tomas de Torquemada...was largely responsible for... [the] torture and the burning of heretics – Muslims in particular.

“Now, of course, I am not accusing the attorney general of pulling out anyone’s fingernails or burning people at the stake (at least I don’t know of any such cases). But one does get the sense these days that the old Spaniard’s spirit is comfortably at home in Ashcroft’s Department of Justice.”

– Former CBS Evening News anchor Walter Cronkite in his syndicated column published in the September 22 Philadelphia Inquirer.

Isn’t Saddam Grand?

Diane Sawyer: “I read this morning that he’s [Saddam Hussein] also said the love that the Iraqis have for him is so much greater than anything Americans feel for their president because he’s been loved for 35 years, he says, the whole 35 years.”

Dan Harris in Baghdad: “He is one to point out quite frequently that he is part of a historical trend in this country of restoring Iraq to its greatness, its historical greatness. He points out frequently that he was elected with a hundred percent margin recently.”
–ABC’s Good Morning America, March 7.

Saddam Hussein, Feminist

Tom Brokaw: “NBC News ‘In Depth’ tonight. In the aftermath of the war on Iraq, new anxieties for some of the country’s educated, successful women. Although many may be glad to be rid of Saddam Hussein, many are also worried that a new government could set them back....’’

Mike Taibbi in Baghdad: “While the end to the Saddam regime means a return to long-denied freedoms for all Iraqis, it may also mean at least a temporary rollback of some hard-won freedoms for millions of Iraqi women.... While Saddam’s regime brutalized women – rape, torture, even beheadings – his secular government also gave women more rights than their counterparts in many other Islamic countries.”
– NBC Nightly News, April 22.

Why, We Just Love Saddam!

“Iraqis are growing increasingly enraged by the mounting damage to civilian sites – including this maternity hospital, smashed up by a bomb that exploded nearby. Several people were killed, even though patients had been evacuated at the start of the war. Walking through the streets of Baghdad today, it’s clear that this war is not popular. I asked this man if he thinks the war is about liberating him from Saddam’s brutal regime. “Liberation?” he asked me. “Who asked for America to liberate us?” ”
– Freelancer Richard Engel reporting from Saddam-controlled Baghdad, ABC’s World News Tonight, April 2.

Saddam, Patron Of The Arts

“This week we were surprised to see several hundred artists and writers walking through the streets of Baghdad to say thank you to Saddam Hussein. He had just increased their monthly financial support. Cynical, you could argue at this particular time, but the state has always supported the arts, and some of the most creative people in the Arab world have always been Iraqis. And whatever they think about Saddam Hussein in the privacy of their homes, on this occasion they were praising his defense of the homeland in the face of American threats.”
– ABC’s Peter Jennings in Baghdad, concluding the January 21 World News Tonight

Dukakis, Mondale No Liberals

“The rap on [Howard] Dean is that he’s like Dukakis and Mondale and McGovern. Well, McGovern was a liberal, but we had an issue and that was the war. Dukakis was no liberal and neither was Mondale. Both of them had several people to the left in those primaries. It was what the Republicans did to them once they got the nomination that made them seem to be liberals in both cases.”
– Former NBC and CNN reporter Ken Bode on the syndicated Chris Matthews Show, August 10.

Kneeling Before Hillary (I)

“You became First Lady like no other First Lady before you. You had your own interests, you got involved in public policy. No First Lady had done that without being severely criticized. Did you realize what you were getting into?....I don’t think people realize how strong your faith is.’’
– Barbara Walters to Sen. Hillary Clinton in a June 8 ABC special promoting her book, “Living History.”

Kneeling Before Hillary (II)

“Senator Hillary Clinton is at Ground Zero this morning to attend the September 11th anniversary ceremony, and she joins us now. Good morning, Senator Clinton....You’ve fought so much for the heroes of 9/11. You have sought money for firefighters, you’ve taken the EPA to task for toning down their report on air quality at Ground Zero. Has enough been done for the heroes, the people who fought so bravely on that day?”
– CBS’s Hannah Storm to Hillary Clinton on The Early Show, September 11.

Kneeling Before Hillary (III)

Bob Costas: “How, from where you sit, have you maintained your dignity, and how can you be so controlled under circumstances that would be trying for the best of us?...If you became president, what kind of First Gentleman would Bill Clinton be?...What are your best and worst qualities as a politician?” Senator Hillary Clinton: “Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right.”
– Exchange on HBO’s On the Record with Bob Costas, July 18.

Leftist Protesters = Superpower

“The size of the demonstrators, at least here, at least in Europe, seems to underscore, Chris, that there are now perhaps two world superpowers. There’s the United States and then there are those millions of people who took to the streets opposing U.S. policy.”
– MSNBC’s David Shuster to Hardball host Chris Matthews, February 17.

Wow, Wish We’d Been There

“It was a party a hundred thousand strong, flowing haltingly below the slated mansard roofs of Paris’s stately avenues, accompanied by balloons and banners and vendors selling foot-long hot dogs and fries. If there is one thing the French know how to do, it is how to conduct a demonstration.

“Ladies in stiletto heels and fur-fringed jackets, fathers pushing strollers trailing McDonald’s balloons, drably dressed union members, students in face paint and carnival clothes – all turned out to make some noise. Yet despite the gay atmosphere beneath a brilliant blue sky, the message was stark, even dark.

“ ‘The United States is a barbarian country,’ shouted some. ‘Bush, let’s murder,’ shouted others. One group chanted, ‘Bush, Blair, Sharon, Putin, Chirac: Justice in Palestine, don’t touch Iraq.’ ”
– Introduction of Craig Smith’s February 16 New York Times story, about anti-war protests in Paris, headlined, “Throwing a Party With a Purpose.”

Just Another ‘Objective’ Reporter

“This is the worst president ever. He [George W. Bush] is the worst president in all of American history.” – Hearst White House columnist Helen Thomas at a Society for Professional Journalism banquet, as quoted by the Torrance, California Daily Breeze’s John Bogert in a January 19 story.

Clinton Good, Bush Bad

“A friend of mine here at CNN has a theory about the Bush administration. They’re convinced that everything Bill Clinton ever did was wicked, bad and awful, and so they want to do the opposite....Clinton wanted to save all that wilderness area in Alaska; and Mr. Bush wants to drill for oil there. Clinton fussed about clean air; this president wants to ease new restrictions on coal-burning power plants.... Clinton, my friend noted, had surpluses. Obviously, the Bush administration thinks those are evil, because what they want is deficits -- big ones, maybe the biggest ever.”
– CNN’s Bruce Morton on Late Edition, February 9.

We Did To Iraq What Bin Laden Did To Us

“I decided to put on my flag pin tonight – first time. Until now I haven’t thought it necessary to display a little metallic icon of patriotism for everyone to see....I put it on to take it back. The flag’s been hijacked and turned into a logo – the trademark of a monopoly on patriotism....

“When I see flags sprouting on official lapels, I think of the time in China when I saw Mao’s Little Red Book on every official’s desk, omnipresent and unread. But more galling than anything are all those moralistic ideologues in Washington sporting the flag in their lapels while writing books and running websites and publishing magazines attacking dissenters as un-American....I put this on as a modest riposte to men with flags in their lapels who shoot missiles from the safety of Washington think tanks, or argue that sacrifice is good as long as they don’t have to make it....I put it on to remind myself that not every patriot thinks we should do to the people of Baghdad what bin Laden did to us.”
– Bill Moyers on PBS’s Now, February 28.

No Difference Between 9/11, Iraq Attack

“To many New Yorkers, the scenes of a city under siege were achingly familiar. New Yorkers watching the televised bombing of Baghdad yesterday said they were riveted by the raw and uninterrupted display of American military might. But for some, the bombing brought back particularly visceral and chilling memories. They could not help thinking about Sept. 11, and how New York, too, was once under assault from the skies.”

– New York Times reporter David Chen in a March 22 news story headlined “Baghdad Bombing Brings Back Memories of 9/11.”

Katie Couric, Girl Reporter

“There’s an article in the Style section of the Washington Post this morning. It says you’ve logged 26 years of personal minutiae, filling 4,400 two-by-three inch notebooks, color-coded by season. An example: ‘12:17’ – this is when you made the announcement – ‘Ascend stage, stumble, regain balance; 12:18: Applause, ‘Where the Streets Have No Name’ plays (U2); 12:19: Clap, wave; 12:20: Adjust tie (red, white stripes); 12:21: Double thumbs up; 12:22: Sing along with National Anthem, right hand on heart.’ What, what do you do this for?!”

– Katie Couric to Senator Bob Graham on NBC’s Today, May 7, apparently unaware the article she quoted from was a spoof of the presidential candidate’s diary.

Liberals? At CBS?!

CBS’s Lesley Stahl: “Today you have broadcast journalists who are avowedly conservative....The voices that are being heard in broadcast media today, are far more – the ones who are being heard – are far more likely to be on the right and avowedly so, and therefore, more – almost stridently so, than what you’re talking about.”

Host Cal Thomas: “Can you name a conservative journalist at CBS News?”

Stahl: “I don’t know of anybody’s political bias at CBS News....We try very hard to get any opinion that we have out of our stories, and most of our stories are balanced.”
– Exchange on Fox News Channel’s After Hours with Cal Thomas, January 18.

Give It A Rest, Peter

“I don’t think anybody who looks carefully at us thinks that we are a left-wing or a right-wing organization.”
– Peter Jennings, as quoted by USA Today’s Peter Johnson in a September 9 article on Jennings’s 20 years as sole anchor of ABC’s World News Tonight.

Another Pinhead Named Peter

Within the United States, there is growing challenge to President Bush about the conduct of the war and also opposition to the war. So our reports about civilian casualties here....help those who oppose the war.

“Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces....And I personally do not understand how that happened, because I’ve been here many times and in my commentaries on television I would tell the Americans about the determination of the Iraqi forces, the determination of the government, and the willingness to fight for their country. But me, and others who felt the same way, were not listened to by the Bush administration.

“Now America is re-appraising the battlefield, delaying the war, maybe a week, and re-writing the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance; now they are trying to write another war plan.”
– Then-NBC/MSNBC/National Geographic Explorer correspondent Peter Arnett’s comments on Iraq’s state-controlled television network, March 30, shown by C-SPAN.

And The Winner Is...

MRC’s Quote of the Year:

“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”

– Charles Pierce in a January 5 Boston Globe Magazine article. Kopechne drowned while trapped in Kennedy’s submerged car off Chappaquiddick Island in July 1969, an accident Kennedy did not report for several hours.



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (39249)8/4/2005 9:34:41 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 93284
 
LIVING IN WONDERLAND: TIRED OF THE LIES, PROPAGANDA AND HYPOCRISY
08/16/99 Author: By Gavin Phillips

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

- George Orwell
"Please would you tell me," said Alice a little timidly "...why your cat grins like that?"
"It's a Cheshire Cat," said the Duchess, "and that's why. Pig!"

In Lewis Carroll's wonderful novel, "Alice in Wonderland," talking rabbits dash around wearing a waistcoat and a fob watch. Cats disappear and reappear with amazing alacrity. Alice explores a beautifully fantastic and eccentric world, but a world of fiction.

Let us take a look at 3 major incidents in Clinton's 6 1/2 year presidency and determine if the official/mainstream media versions belong in our world, or in a wonderland of their own making.

THE VINCE FOSTER "SUICIDE"
The official story of the Vince Foster death is that Foster shot himself on July 20 1993 in Fort Marcy Park, Washington. But the enormous amount of evidence collected by investigative journalist Chris Ruddy leaves the official version in tatters.
Ruddy has documented many dozens of major and minor inconsistencies, loopholes and massive incompetence in the government's investigation. I have listed below a small sampling of some of these.

No suicide note
Another torn note was found in a briefcase that previously had been searched
Three handwriting experts, including one from Oxford University, concluded the note was a forgery.
Body so neatly arranged, arms at sides, head straight up, as "if it was ready for the coffin," according to two paramedics.
No fingerprints, though gun found in hand
No visible blood splatter or blow-back on gun
Gun remained in hand
Vincent Scalice and Fred Santucci, two homicide experts formerly with the New York City Police Dept. say:

"Red flag indicating possible foul play...In our 50 years combined experience investigating homicides, we have never seen a gun so neatly arranged in a suicide's hand. We believe the gun was staged."

Gun not sent for testing until one week after official ruling of suicide
Police underexposed key 35mm crime scene photos, other Polaroid's missing
Relied on autopsy of Virginia medical examiner, who has been challenged in two suicide rulings - in one case the murderer later confessed
Patrick knowlton , a witness who officials said was the first to spot Foster's Honda in the parking lot, claims the FBI "lied" in his witness statement; they claimed he could not identify a man he saw in the park; he says he can.
Foster's glasses were found with gunpowder on them 19 feet from his head.
Vincent Scalice and Fred Santucci say: "It is physically impossible for the eyeglasses to have moved 19 feet, or any significant distance from the body, as a result of the gun's explosion."

I have only given a dozen examples of what Ruddy's investigation unearthed, there are nearly a hundred documented at his website www.newsmax.com, (or see his book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster)if you want further evidence. Another very important question is why was the Park Police, real life equivalents to the keystone Cops and little more than nightwatchman, initially put in charge of investigating the death of the highest public official to die in suspicious circumstances since JFK? Also unprecedented is the fact that the lead investigator had never handled a homicide case before. I suppose he needed the experience!

When journalist and author Ambrose Evans-Pritchard located key witness Patrick knowlton he found out that the FBI had lied about Knowltons statements. Below is a small part of an interview between Wesly Phelan and Knowltons lawyer John Clark:

CLARKE: ...Pritchard located and interviewed him. And Pat was telling the story, and Pritchard said "Are you telling the truth?" And Patrick said "Yes, why?" And Pritchard said "Because that's not what it says in your FBI 302 reports." And Patrick had never seen them, and so he said "Let me see them." So he went through them, and he said "This is a lie...This is a lie...This is a lie...A lot of lies in there."

Another surprising coincidence is that the day before Foster committed suicide Bill Clinton dismissed FBI director William Sessions. He replaced him with errand boy Louis Freeh, a man who made his name by obtaining a very dubious conviction of a mail bomber. Later testimony showed that the FBI laboratory had manufactured evidence to make the prosecution's case stronger. Freeh is another Clinton lap-dog, a totally unprincipled bureaucrat who has helped orchestrate several large government cover-up's in the last 6 years.

THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING
The Oklahoma City bombing has a special interest for me as I have recently finished writing a book on the subject (The Oklahoma City Bombing: Searching For the Truth)
The official/mainstream media version about the April 19 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma is that Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and a home-brew fertilizer truck bomb are responsible for the worst act of terrorism carried out on U.S. soil. They say that McVeigh was alone on the day of the bombing.

But immediately after the bombing many people said that they either heard and/or felt two distinct explosions.

Jim Ferguson was in the U.S. Federal Courthouse located just south of the Murrah Building, he stated, "Everyone in town, everybody who was there, knows there were two blasts."

In Michelle Marie Moore's book, "Oklahoma City:Day One" pg 46 she states:

"Two attorneys with offices in downtown Oklahoma City were both dictating correspondence at the time of the explosions. The taped records of the two explosive events and the rumbling of the collapse of the Murrah Building are clearly discernible on their audio cassettes."

The most important question in the Oklahoma bombing is whether an ANFO (ammonium nitrate and fuel oil) truck bomb placed about 15/20 feet from the building can destroy about 25% of the building? Prominent explosive, engineering and scientific expert's say it is totally impossible.

Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, U.S. Air Force, retired, has 25 years experience in explosives and ballistic weapons design and testing. Partin studied hundreds of photographs of the bombed out building and has no doubt whatsoever that demolition charges were placed at major columns inside the building. He says in part:

"The total incompatibility with a single truck bomb lies in the fact that either some columns collapsed that should not have collapsed or some of the columns are still standing that should have collapsed and did not."

He concludes;
"This is a classic cover-up of immense proportions."

Sam Cohen, inventor of the Neutron bomb and one of the last men alive who worked on the Manhattan Project says:

"I don't care how much fertilizer and fuel oil they used, it would never be enough. Demolition charges placed at key column did the dirty work."

Robert Frias, President of Frias Engineering of Arlington, Texas, a practicing engineer for over 40 years, registered in Texas, New Mexico and Louisiana stated, "Explosives had to have been placed near, or on the structural columns inside the building to cause the collapse that occurred to the Murrah building.”

I spoke with Partin in April of this year and he again re-iterated the impossibility of the ANFO truck bomb scenario. He also stated how over-the-counter fertilizer is virtually useless for ANFO bombs because of it's high water content. Ammonium nitrate has to be kept bone dry otherwise it will not explode, that is why explosive grade ANFO is primarily used for bomb making. (for more information see www.thenewamerican.com/focus/okc/index.htm)

There is also plenty of evidence that the government had prior warning about the bombing in Oklahoma. The BATF's own undercover agent Carol Howe spent most of her time at Elohim City (neo-nazi compound in East Oklahoma) and talking to Dennis Mahon, a virulent anti-government white supremacist, and Andreas Strassmeir, a German (probably another government informant/provocateur)who constantly spoke of terrorist actions.

By November 1994 Carol reported Strassmeir and Mahon were discussing making direct government attacks such as "assassinations" and "bombings". Carol told the BATF that the "Federal building" in Oklahoma City was a possible target. She also mentioned that something called the "Morrow Building" was a possible target..

When it became public that Howe had given the government prior warning they arrested her on trumped charges of possessing bomb making material. She was aquitted on all charges.

Shortly after the blast Bruce Shaw rushed up to the remains of the Murrah Building looking for his wife who worked there. Bruce asked an ATF agent about his wifes whereabouts. Bruce told KFOR's Brad Edward’s that the agent "started getting a little bit nervous. He tried reaching someone on a two-way radio...He said they were in debriefing, that none of the agents had been in there. They'd been tipped by their pagers not to come to work that day. Plain as day out of his mouth. Those were the words he said.". Bruce’s employer, Tony Brasier was with Bruce at the time and verified his statement to Brad Edward’s.

Dr. Frederick Whitehurst used to be in charge of the FBI crime laboratory. Whitehurst went public saying that his colleague’s at the lab were constantly manipulating evidence in order to favor the prosecution, basically framing them. The Inspector General's office independently investigated Whitehurst’s allegations and agreed with him. The Inspector Generals 450 page report is a scathing indictment of the Crime Labs investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing and confirms everything Whitehurst said.

In summing up, the Inspector General’s report said the FBI crime labs had "repeatedly reached conclusions that incriminated the defendants without a scientific basis" in the Oklahoma bombing case.

After going public, Whitehurst was demoted and transferred. Whitehurst resigned from the FBI and recently settled his whistleblower lawsuit against the FBI for approximately 1.65 million.

The official version of events in Oklahoma is one of the most blatant works of fiction ever perpetrated on the American public. A colossal amount of evidence exists proving that the government/mainstream media story of a couple of disaffected men and a homemade fertilizer truck bomb is utterly absurd.

TWA 800
TWA 800 exploded at about 8.31 pm on July 17 1996, some 12 minutes after taking off from Kennedy airport, 10 miles south of Long Island killing all 230 people aboard. The government theorizes the cause was an unknown spontaneous ignition in the fuel tank. They still do not know for sure. The FBI had closed it's 16 month investigation into the incident on November 13, 1997, and found "absolutely no evidence" of criminal involvement, or of a missile being responsible.
Investigator James Sanders, author of the book, "The Downing of TWA Flight 800," came to a completely different conclusion, along with other investigators. Sanders' conclusion was that the U.S. Navy was involved in wargames on the night of July 17, and were testing a highly sophisticated, recently upgraded, anti-missile missile system called the AEGIS-CEC . The system was supposed to be able to differentiate between friendly, enemy and commercial aircraft, in the often very confusing airspace that you have in a war type situation. The system was meant to pick out the enemy's from all other aircraft despite radar jamming by the enemy. (see The Downing of TWA Flight 800 pg 15 through 25)Unbeknownst to the passengers and crew aboard TWA 800, the Navy was using them and other commercial aircraft coming and going from Kennedy airport as neutrals.

According to Sanders the Navy launched a BQM-74E drone in the vicinity of Shinnecock Bay. Linda Kabot was taking photographs from Westhampton Beach and inadvertently caught an image of what looks like a drone missile on one of her pictures. The Navy then launched an antimissile missile at the drone, but according to Sanders, the AEGIS-CEC system malfunctioned and went "blind," and the missile locked onto the closest available target, TWA 800. A long Island FAA radar technician said he saw, "conflicting radar tracks that indicated a missile," just before TWA 800 disappeared. (IBID pg 26)

James made contact with Terrel Stacey who was involved in the official investigation but was unhappy with the way it was being run. Stacey acquired two small pieces of seat covering which were covered in a reddish/orange colored residue. This substance was only on seats in rows 17 though 19 in the forward section of the plane, near where the nose section blew off. Sanders gave one piece to CBS so they could run tests on it, they promptly returned it to the FBI. The other piece he had tested by West Coast Analytical Services, who broke it down into a list of chemical components. Sanders says on page 136 of his book that, "All of these elements (listed) are consistent with residue from a solid fuel missile." The FBI said it was seat glue. Why it was only on those seats was never explained. The NTSB had it tested by NASA scientist Dr. Charles Bassett and said that he had proven that the residue was seat glue. But this was a lie, Basset later swore under oath that his tests did not link the residue to seat glue.

The FBI were enraged at Sanders' revelations. They immediately seized his phone records so as to ascertain who his informant was. James and his wife Elizabeth were arrested in December 97, just prior to the NTSB hearings in which Sanders was going to speak. James Kallstrom, the FBI's lead investigator said:

"These defendants are charged with not only committing a serious crime, they have also increased the pain already inflicted on the victims' families."

Of course Kallstrom is doing everything he can to ease the families pain and suffering. What a squirming hypocrite Kallstrom is, for he also took a piece of the wreckage and gave it to a family member of one of the crash victims as a memento. Kallstrom is guilty of exactly the same "crime" the Sanders were found guilty of, but don't hold your breath waiting for him to stand trial.

They also charged Terrel Stacy alongside James and Elizabeth Sanders. Stacy, who took the cloth, testified for the government and was given leniency, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, while James and Elizabeth were charged with a felony. James and Elizabeth Sanders were found guilty on April 13 1999 and were sentenced on July 16. Sanders was given three years probation and 50 hours of community service. His wife received one year probation and 25 hours of community service.

This is the kind of malicious selective government prosecution you expect to find in Beijing or in one of Stalin's purges. The heavy handed iron fist of Big Brother making it abundantly clear that journalists exposing government lies will not be tolerated. Speaking of lies, the government has committed several during their "investigation."

The Navy said that the closest government ship to TWA 800 when it crashed was the U.S.S. Normandy, 185 miles away.

The Village Voice reported Dean Steward and his girlfriend Susan Smith saw a naval warship about 3 miles offshore at about 3.10 pm on the day of the crash. Steward is an 8 year Navy vet and says he thought the ship was an Aegis class cruiser. Barbara Pacholk also says she saw a surfaced submarine and two Navy ships prior to the crash. (see www.villagevoice.com/features/9928/davey.shtml)

The Navy said their only only asset in the area was a P-3 Orion aircraft.

The Navy later admitted that there were three submarines in the area at the time.

The Navy said that the there were no military maneuvers in the area at the time of the crash.

Later they admitted that there were classified maneuvers being carried out.

James Kallstrom in a recorded interview with Reed Irvine on September 14 1998, said that three of the surface radar contacts "were Navy ships on classified maneuvers."

James Kallstrom told Congress that the FBI's investigation had included "tracking of all air and waterborne vessels in the area at the time of the explosion followed by appropriate interviews." Kallstrom also said, "We turned over every stone, not once but 10 times."

But the FBI failed to turn over one of the most important stones of all, an unknown radar blip which became known as "the 30 knot track." This object turned out to be a boat some 30 feet long which rapidly leaves from under the burning debris of TWA 800 as other boats turned to render assistance This is obviously highly suspicious and could well be where terrorists launched shoulder mounted SAM missiles. This is the opinion of William S. Donaldson USN (Ret.). Donaldson has also thoroughly investigated the TWA 800 case and his conclusions are that TWA 800 was taken down by one or two SAM missiles launched by terrorists, probably affiliated with Osama Bin Laden. Donaldson has excellent credentials, former Officer in Charge of Carrier Battlegroup's Air Traffic Control Center, pilot and military accident investigator(see twa800.com/). Admiral Thomas Moorer, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said "All evidence would point to a missile." (USA Today: Retired Officers Fire Missile Back Into Case. 1/9/98) The NTSB's Peter Goelz was not interested in the boat, he said, "It does not intrigue me." This is like a policeman saying that a car seen speeding away from a hit and run doesn't interest investigators.

The FBI, in their desperation to explain why dozens of reliable witnesses saw a missile like object rise in the sky, proposed a theory that a stream of fuel had ignited and this is what they had seen. This explanation worked well as a stunt in the movie Die Hard II, but is totally ludicrous in the real world. Undaunted, the FBI turned to the masters of deceit, the CIA, to see what they could cook up. The CIA presented a video showing a noseless 747 maintaining stable flight and actually climbing about 3000 feet before crashing. The witnesses were supposedly mistaking a burning rising 747 at over 13000 feet for a missile like object rising from the surface. Unfortunately for the CIA they forgot about the laws of aerodynamics and physics. Engineers and pilots had a good laugh at this preposterous work of fiction. The fact is that the second the 747 lost it's nose it would stall and drop like a brick, end of story.

The FBI interviewed 154 "credible" witnesses who saw a missile like object rising through the sky and then suddenly exploding. During the NTSB's only public hearings on TWA 800 in Baltimore, December 1997, Kallstrom asked the NTSB not to include the well over a hundred eyewitnesses who reported seeing a missile like object rise from the ocean surface. The red residue was also not displayed or accounted for in the hearings.

Major Frederick C. Meyer of the New York National Guard's 106th rescue wing was piloting an HH-60G helicopter over Gabreski airport in Westhampton Beach at the time TWA 800 crashed.

Meyer is a Vietnam vet and flew helicopters in Vietnam and knows what missiles and flak look like. On March 12 1998 he told the Granada Forum: "My purpose in being here tonight is to tell you that what I saw explode in the sky on July 17, 1996 was military ordnance...We're here to say it's no accident - somebody shot this aircraft down." (plenty of information at www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/TWA/twa.html)

THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
Repeated large government cover-ups are impossible to contain when you have a nosy, questioning and confrontational free press tenaciously digging for the truth. The mainstream media today are an embarrassment to themselves and the profession of journalism they purport to represent. The last 30 some years they have become hand and foot maidens for the government and are now a de facto fourth branch of government.
Bill Clinton's favorite pets, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Time magazine have slipped through the looking glass into their fantasy-land and want you to join them there. This is a world where "home-brew" fertilizer truck bombs rip apart concrete and steel. Where commercial jets blow up in mid-air and it is blamed on unknown spontaneous ignitions, a virtually unprecedented occurrence, while dozens of highly credible eyewitness testimony pointing to a different cause is ignored.

Anything can be conjured up in their world. A world of gobbledygook and flying ching-a-lings. A world where scrilinks flip you wonky donks and iridescent 7 headed say bays float lazily along on moonclouds. The mainstream media world is one in which the truth (never mention the word truth around them, it's been known to induce catatonia)in any event is molded, changed, re-invented, abstracted, distorted, glossed over and finally emerges in whatever configuration the mandarins of power want it shaped. They slavishly sit at the White Houses knee, jaws drooling, waiting for the command to obfuscate the truth in another incident; off they dash, tails wagging in anticipation of a new opportunity to spread deceit and falsehood.

I often wonder what happened to the ideals and aspirations of the editors and journalists of the mainstream press, what happened to their dreams of blazing their own path? I suppose they dispensed with them the second they found out that The Washington Post, New York Times et al are not in the truth business; they are in the making people believe in 3 winged glofats business. They ditched any noble thoughts they once had of informing people about the truth on important issues once they realized it was a despised trait by the editors of the mainstream media. They replaced integrity with venality, replaced principles for prestige, replaced scruples with social standing, replaced self worth for self importance. Anyway, now they can go to fancy cocktail parties and brush shoulders with Senators and Congressman who have also sold out. But that is who they feel most comfortable with, for they also believe in purple and green spotted zigomuffins.

Unfortunately for the mainstream media fewer and fewer people take them seriously anymore. The Internet is their nemesis, the mere mention of which gets them highly agitated; flailing of the arms and wild snorting has also been witnessed. Once they compose themselves they sniff imperiously, 'they are all conspiracy nuts.' Of course there are rumors and gossip on the Internet, but the vast majority of people know how to differentiate between the two. All theories are open to the harsh criticism of thousands who openly and honestly debate incidents such as the ones discussed in this article. They have been tested by the fire of honest public debate and the conclusions are that the government/mainstream media are lying through their teeth. The Internet is flourishing and news websites such as Worldnetdaily.com and freerepublic.com are getting millions of readers weekly. "Reporting" in the Post and Times has become the laughing stock for many, the only use they serve now is to see just how far from the truth they will go whilst trying to propagate the governments latest 60 legged vay jay story.

But the propaganda and lies keep on coming and being exposed. There must be some very red faces at the Pentagon lately. Yes, it turns out that NATO's great victory in Kosovo is nowhere near as great as we were led to believe. Two thousand Serb civilians were "collaterally damaged." Just prior to war's end NATO claimed it had destroyed about 60% of it's artillery and about 40% of their main battle tanks. But the London Times reported on June 24, "hundreds of Serb dummies managed to fool the NATO brass dummies into believing they were bombing hundreds of Serbian tanks and artillery." The Times goes onto say, "NATO's 79-day bombing campaign against Yugoslavia...succeeded in damaging only 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo." After all the rhetoric and chest thumping by the Pentagon war mongers about how sophisticated and efficient our technology is, they were fooled by the simplest and oldest trick in the book, decoys made of plastic and wood. "When you're traveling at 500mph at 15,000ft, it is easy to be fooled," a KFOR (NATO's Kosovo Force) told The Times. Col. David Hackworth (Ret), (author of "About Face")the most decorated American soldier alive recently wrote an article for Worldnetdaily, entitled "How the Serbs Outfoxed NATO,"in part he says;

"During the conflict, smart bombs and missiles costing from 50 grand to 2 million bucks repeatedly blew up decoy "tanks," "artillery pieces" and other "targets" made of sticks and plastic, some of which included primitive heat sources for faking out gold-plated thermal-image systems in NATO aircraft.

"U.S. aircraft flying at 15,000 feet had a field day blowing up these "Serb air defense units" and other dummy targets, while their spinners back at NATO headquarters daily chanted to the world, "We are significantly degrading their air defense and combat ability."

And after 6 1/2 years of lies, dishonor and betrayal, Bill Clinton still sits on his throne. A depraved and morally bankrupt master con-man whose only legacy is having run the most corrupt administration in the history of the United States and the only sitting President to be accused of rape. And by his feet sit his most loyal supplicants, the mainstream media, whose power to deceive is rapidly diminishing I can hardly wait for their next work of fiction though; glowing, cappuccino slurping Jazzmavens perhaps?

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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (39249)8/4/2005 12:22:08 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 93284
 
Why Did Joseph Wilson Lie?

Cliff Kincaid, © Accuracy In Media

August 2, 2005

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When Wilson went public with his column in the New York Times, he had to know that such an article would lead to scrutiny of his wife.

One of the fascinating questions about the Valerie Plame affair is why Joseph Wilson lied about his wife's role in sending him on that mission to investigate the Iraq-uranium link. In his own book, ironically titled, The Politics of Truth, Wilson admits that if she played such a role, that might be a violation of federal nepotism laws. Of course, the special prosecutor is not investigating that. But Herbert Romerstein, a former professional staff member of the House Intelligence Committee, says there is another reason. And that is that her involvement in sending her husband on a CIA mission to Africa meant that when Wilson went public about it, foreign intelligence services would investigate all of his family members for possible CIA connections. Those intelligence services would not simply assume that he went on the mission because he was a former diplomat. They would investigate his wife. And that would inevitably lead to unraveling the facts about Valerie Wilson, or Valerie Plame, and her involvement with the CIA.

As Romerstein put it in an article for Human Events, when answering the question about who really exposed Wilson's wife, "The culprit was Joe Wilson…with some help from his wife."

He wrote, "When Wilson wrote an op-ed in The New York Times in July [2003] and revealed that he had gone to Niger on a CIA assignment, he called attention to his wife. CIA people who are really undercover are very careful about not identifying themselves or their families with the agency. They wait until their children are old enough to keep their mouths shut before revealing, even to them, that they are CIA officers. Wilson listed his wife's maiden name in the biography he put on the web site of the Middle East Institute."

The nepotism was bad enough. But Romerstein is saying that Plame's role in arranging the mission for her husband is solid proof that she was not concerned about having her "cover" blown because she was not truly under cover.

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When Wilson went public with his column in the New York Times, he had to know that such an article would lead to scrutiny of his wife. Equally significant, it might lead to scrutiny of her role in arranging his trip, in violation of federal nepotism laws. Therefore, he had to try to get his wife off the hook. That's why he absolved her of any role in arranging his mission in his book. The media initially accepted what he had to say with no questions asked. Eventually, however, his cover-up fell apart when the Senate Intelligence Committee uncovered evidence that Plame had a role in her husband's mission.

Some news organizations noted this evidence at the time but because Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald had begun investigating the issue of who leaked information about her identity, the nepotism issue was simply shunted aside, even though that is the critical matter and gets to the heart of what the Wilson affair is all about. Columnist Robert Novak's naming of Plame as a CIA employee is a sideshow that only draws attention to a fact that isn't of any consequence.

In retrospect, it's clear the Plame and Wilson pulled off a monumental deception, with the help of the media. The facts suggest that Plame and her husband were determined to undermine the Administration's Iraq policy and were prepared to go to extraordinary lengths to accomplish that. Together with their media allies, they created such a firestorm over the naming of Plame that the White House panicked into seeking a special prosecutor.

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Read Kincaid's complete commentary at aim.org.