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To: Perspective who wrote (37775)8/4/2005 2:17:22 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
>>They average 80% LTV, which surprised the hell out of me.<<

That probably is true...they securitize and jettison the riskier stuff, so it's not on their books for long. Problem is that that's where their profits and cash flow lie (primarily) and as their report today shows, the profitability of that trade is drying up. Keep in mind also that as long as housing prices bubble up, their LTV will look "better" than it will in say another year when prices have rolled over. Falling tide exposing the nude bather, as it were.....

I'd also take a very close look at the footnote on "LTV"....

It's possible that they're trying to tighten up, especially if they think we're heading over the cliff. It'll be too late to save them, however.

Finally, there are a lot of tricks used to get the LTV over 80 in any individual loan, to avoid the need for PMI. 2nd mortgages and other devices are frequently employed. Loantech has some insights on this I'm sure.



To: Perspective who wrote (37775)8/4/2005 2:30:34 PM
From: russwinter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
In the "wonder what's being reporting" category, when you see so called LTV of 70-80% for people with 600 like FICO scores, it just makes you wonder about the appraisals, doesn't it?



To: Perspective who wrote (37775)8/5/2005 10:39:11 PM
From: Wyätt Gwyön  Respond to of 110194
 
Could it be that NEW and many of these other lenders are actually direct beneficiaries of whoever the hell is lapping up the toxic 20% loans

yes, and perhaps the party who is clearly the un-beneficiary is the mortgage insurers. read PMI's bashing of piggybacks:
pmigroup.com