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To: greenspirit who wrote (130046)	8/5/2005 5:06:31 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793820

Incredible hypocrites... The blogs are really thundering about the adoption investigation. I haven't posted them because it is redundant. Let's see if the NYT public editor has an article on it. So far, he has been a wuzz.

To: greenspirit who wrote (130046)	8/5/2005 6:51:06 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793820

I am sure you are following this. "AS-28 Down Chapomatic Updates in the comments. Lots of people working hard on gathering info. Check Ultraquiet for the updated gouge. The Sub Report has news links as well. 1255 CST: * Chaotic Synaptic Activity has observations on sub rescue history. * Pigboat Sailor (who has a blog I didn’t know about!) reports Interfax says they’re trying to get cameras down and attempt a snag-and-tow. * Ultraquiet No More, a group blog for submariners, has updates and links. Noonz Wire has the news scan, including MSNBC reports–sounds like MSNBC’s getting info second hand. * Here’s a news release from a 2004 exercise with the US and Russian submariners. * This document talks UUVs. Super Scorpio’s an ROV not a UUV as I mentioned incorrectly earlier. Smash has the details.This is the USN submarine propaganda website. * This article (pdf) is illuminating as to how all this resource flow happened so quickly. 1443 CST: –Anchor is holding down the minisub. The next snag attempt seems to have worked. They’re ahead of schedule. Air might last until 8 Aug (my guess: recalculation and guys are resting to save air). Things seem to be moving okay at the moment–but salvage work is dramatic quickly, so find your friend with the ability to translate the Interfax reports… 1458 CST: BBC overview has a crude map and good summary. Bubblehead is as usual way ahead of the rest of us on the news. “A camera sent down in the water shows that during a dive, the vessel’s propeller became stuck in a fishing net, snagging further when the crew tried to free it, said Dygalo. Some kind of cable or wire was also involved, he said. The deal: AS-28, a forty-four foot long thirty-year-old titanium hulled minisub, is trapped underwater (200 meters?) off the coast of Petropavlovsk in Berezovaya Bay. There’s about a day of air (more or less, and I’m assuming they’re including CO2 removal) left for the seven or so guys involved. Two (?) Super Scorpion UUVs ROVs (they’re tethered) are in the air from San Diego. The rescue ops should start in a matter of hours. Japanese ships (no further info) are racing north. No information on whether the South Korean sub rescue ship with its British-made rescue craft will play. 200m is deeper than 600ft; leaving the boat unaided would damage all the sailors and likely kill several–especially at that latitude. Press RUMINT says the boat needed repair; doesn’t look right now as though that’s the trouble, it’s the nets. Moscow Times has updates but they’re not written from a submariner’s experience. There are regular and recent exercises where we share rescue efforts–but not usually with a minisub being the crippled one. This should be an interesting challenge for the rescuers. gmapalumni.org