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To: Road Walker who wrote (245137)8/6/2005 5:13:58 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1584307
 
re: below is my post 226256. "Horse-shit", sure. What else do you call what comes out at the opposite end of the intake of a horse?

Manure, at least in polite company.


He could have said horse puckey.....that's okay in semi polite conversation. LOL.

How did you go from having class and me not to being in a fight over potty mouths? The winds of politics change so quickly. Can't wait for the day we can deport the neocons for being unAmerican.

ted



To: Road Walker who wrote (245137)8/6/2005 5:18:28 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1584307
 
Make sure you click on the link and see the drawing. Its the best. The 'artist' must be a liberal! LOL.

Also don't forget to check out Al's post about the 'brilliant' sex deviant, Bill O'Reilly of FOX News.

Message 21578651

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Spray can prankster tackles Israel's security barrier

Sam Jones
Friday August 5, 2005
The Guardian

Israel describes it as a vital security barrier, while the UN says it's illegal. But as far as the guerrilla graffiti artist Banksy is concerned, the 425-mile long barrier that separates Israel from the Palestinian territories is a vast concrete canvas too tempting to resist.

The subversive dauber, who has terrorised galleries on both sides of the Atlantic and who last year installed a very sexed-up bronze spoof of the Old Bailey's statue of Justice in central London, has ventured further afield for his latest project.

Packing his stencils and spray cans, he went to the Middle East to share his vision with those living on the Palestinian side. His visit is recorded in the nine stencilled pictures, some surreal, some poignant, he left on the gigantic barrier. His latest work was on his website yesterday, labelled "holiday snaps".

Although the paintings themselves are not overtly political, his feelings about the wall are apparent from his statement: "The Israeli government is building a wall surrounding the occupied Palestinian territories. It stands three times the height of the Berlin Wall and will eventually run for over 700km - the distance from London to Zurich. The wall is illegal under international law and essentially turns Palestine into the world's largest open prison."

But he concedes: "It also makes it the ultimate activity holiday destination for graffiti writers."

One of the pictures shows two gleeful children with bucket and spade standing beneath a hole in the wall that opens on to a vista of a tropical paradise. In another, he has transformed the wall into a cosy sitting room complete with two enormous armchairs and a window that frames an alpine landscape.

Other pictures show a little boy kneeling at the foot of a rope ladder that snakes to the top of the wall and the silhouette of a girl rising through the air clutching balloons.

The barrier, which is made of concrete walls and razor-wire fences, has been cited as illegal by the UN, which has ordered it dismantled, though Israel says the wall protects it against suicide bombers.

Jo Brooks, his spokeswoman, said there had been some hairy moments at the barrier. "The Israeli security forces did shoot in the air threateningly and there were quite a few guns pointed at him."

Banksy also records on his website how an old Palestinian man said his painting made the wall look beautiful. Banksy thanked him, only to be told: "We don't want it to be beautiful, we hate this wall. Go home."

guardian.co.uk



To: Road Walker who wrote (245137)8/6/2005 5:29:40 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1584307
 
As Bush War gets personal, nation must find its outrage

ONE OF the great mysteries of the Bush War in Iraq has been the incredible acquiescence of the American people to the unfolding tragedy. There is a seemingly passive acceptance of the conflict-without-end. Some have called the unquestioning silent assent obscene.

It is surely that and more. Where, in God's name, is the outrage? Where are the protests in the streets against a government that has lied to its citizens and taken them for everything they hold dear?

Some say a massive public revolt is missing in action because the country as a whole doesn't feel the pain of war yet. While many may be unsettled about the regular litany of deaths and bombings coming from Iraq, it's simply not personal yet. Certainly it's tragic when a U.S. soldier dies over there but chances are it's nobody you knew.

So the mournful event passes with flags and tears until another and another and another brings the pain home somewhere else in America. Given time the pain of young men and women lost forever will reach into even more homes. Maybe, heaven forbid, it will eventually reach out and tap someone you know.

Then the loss will be personal - or personal enough. An uneasiness is already creeping into our collective comfort zone about the Bush War no matter how firmly one supports the troops with a zillion car magnets or flowing yellow ribbons. This isn't about supporting the troops.

It's about bringing them home alive in one piece. But when military funerals in your state or hometown begin to occur more frequently, either weekly, or bi-weekly, or tragically all at once, the cumulative effect of the senseless dying in Iraq may hit those in denial hard.


When five Marines from the same suburban Cleveland unit died Monday in two separate attacks, northeast Ohio lurched in disbelief. When many more died from the same Ohio-based battalion Wednesday, the area was numb. Any detachment to the war among those following the devastating news was gone.

Now it's personal. Now the pain of war has hit a community that never saw it coming. Trembling widows and heartsick families will clutch pictures of their lost soldiers and re-read yesterday's e-mail from Iraq. It can't be true. Can't be.

No one grieving over the fresh graves would dare suggest that the young souls died for nothing. But gradually the unspoken why of it all is sure to wrap itself around the wrenching agony and rising anger of those who weep. And when it does, the outrage kept in national check until now may stir.


EDIT: Snap!

The reason over 1,800 young Americans have died in Iraq and 12,000 plus have been grievously wounded is hard to pin down. The Bush Administration has changed it several times.

First it was about saving the world from deadly weapons of mass destruction.

Then it was about liberating people. Then it was about spreading democracy. Then it was about fighting terrorists over there so we wouldn't have to fight them over here.

Then it was about keeping the peace in a land of violent convulsions where friend and foe are indistinguishable, while we wait for a constitution to be written, approved, and rooted. But it's a horrible pipe dream floated by the administration that keeps springing leaks and taking American lives.

Maybe you've heard of the "Lucky Lima" Marine unit that drew reservists from across Ohio into the Iraqi conflict. It lived down to its nickname, losing 11 soldiers since the beginning of the war.

Lance Cpl. Christopher Lyons, with a wife and 3-month-old baby waiting for his return in Ashland, died a week ago when his Columbus-based company was attacked in western Iraq. He saw his newborn daughter through Web cameras on the Internet and choked up but never got to hold her before he was killed.

Why? What did he die for in some unpronounceable village thousands of miles from home? So the resilient, sophisticated insurgency can regroup to kill another day? So another Marine unit can mop up another sprung leak?

Is there any succinct strategy to end America's nightmare in a country torn asunder by power vacuums exacerbated by cultural and religious divides? Christopher Lyons, who was due home in late September, was only 24.

Feel enough pain yet to demand the truth about Iraq from the Bush White House? Give it time.

toledoblade.com



To: Road Walker who wrote (245137)8/6/2005 6:14:07 PM
From: Taro  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1584307
 
I have no problem indeed excusing myself to anybody I called by such names as "horse-shit" or "manure" or whatever. So you tell me, whom do I now owe that excuse? You potty mouth...

Taro