To: bentway who wrote (37208 ) 8/8/2005 4:16:30 PM From: shades Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 306849 Herman Melville found neverland at the Marquesas Islands, people had not been introduced to a lot of victorian thought of the day and people were very different than what he was used too back home in NY. The women would just come up to him and gesture or ask for sex and down on the ground in primal lust they went. What was the difference? One had been educated or pink floyd "thought controlled" one way = the other citizens another way = different outcomes. If you will read up on Mr. Melville, his works fell out of favor with "proper" society and only long after his death was he rediscovered for the great writer that he was. Now recently from australia Mr. Alby Mangels lived a herman melville life - and to be an ALBY CHICK - was like some kind of honor - but I think Mr. Alby was finding some lost 3rd world people like ole Herman who just wanted to live Garden of Eden style. Alby makes note though that things were not as easy as people think - the spread of memes in alby's time was much greater than melvilles time. J. Chris I have sampled the lovely women of many cultures, and after many years of that life I just cannot economically justify something that I give them that is so good - my love - I have to pay them to accept - hehe. The problem I see it is these women are forced into something they do not want to do and that is just bad karma to me. Most of the women I met did not LIKE the lifestyle - no matter the economic gain they received, there were some that did, but that was the exception. I am not looking for people doing something they do not want to do because they are materialistic, drug addicted or forced. I would like to find what alby and herman found - garden of eden type folks not so negative and wanted to do what they did. I am convinced very soon in the future, IF our society keeps biotech advancing, primal means of reproduction will be long gone and much more scientific and controlled ways will be common. Watch Cherry 2000, WestWorld, AI, etc etc for the direction of that part of society.