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To: sea_urchin who wrote (23468)	8/8/2005 7:47:00 AM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 81900

> Netanyahu has no plan, merely more shouting about terrorism etc and getting the US involved in more wars. More by Charley Reese: antiwar.com >>In the Iraq War we were everybody's sucker. That crook Ahmad Chalabi played us for a sucker, and the Israelis played us for a sucker. They both got what they wanted – the destruction of Saddam Hussein's government without spending a dollar of their money or a drop of their blood. Instead of Iraqi oil paying for the war, as the neocons had promised, we are paying $61 a barrel for oil. After two years of American occupation, the Iraqi people still don't have (1) security, (2) dependable power, (3) cheap and plentiful gasoline, (4) clean water, (5) a decent sewer system or (6) a viable economy. The deluded imperialists in Washington can blame that on the insurgency, but I assure you, the Iraqi people blame us.<<

To: sea_urchin who wrote (23468)	8/9/2005 7:09:48 AM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 81900

> he [Sharon] has a plan, as he sees it, to extricate Israel from the impasse. electronicintifada.net >>The proposed expansion of illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank has convinced many Palestinians, intellectuals and laymen alike, that peace with Israel is no longer within the realm of possibility. A general belief among Palestinians is that the Israeli plan to "disengage" from Gaza is primarily aimed at consolidating Israel's grip on the West Bank. Recent polls in Palestine have shown that a majority of Palestinians are convinced that a genuine peace with Israel - that is, one based on UN resolutions 242 and 338 and the land-for-peace formula - is no longer possible. Given the failure of UN resolutions demanding Israeli withdrawal and the ground reality, are the Palestinians then resigned to whatever "settlement" Israel imposes on them? Adwan says no. "We have to keep in mind that Palestine is not just another piece of real estate. Palestine is Jerusalem and Jerusalem is al-Aqsa Mosque, without which Islam loses an important and conspicuous part of it," he said. Adwan argues that what prompted Muslims in the 12th century, under the leadership of Salah al-Din, to wage wars against the Crusaders would eventually prompt Muslims to do the same to dislodge Israel from Jerusalem. He believes the conflict could morph into a straightforward religious conflict between Muslims and Jews. "It is already a religious conflict.<< Which is exactly what the West seeks to achieve in its War against Terrorism. Since any Muslim who resists occupation of his land, or what he perceives is his land, by the US/UK/Israel is regarded as a terrorist, it follows that the same conditions exist today as during the time of the Crusades eight hundred years ago. And that's called progress. I'd call it a return to the Dark Ages.