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To: epicure who wrote (168535)	8/9/2005 7:09:17 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

"..when Pakistanis, Egyptians and Saudis flesh out the majority of the terrorist packs, makes the whole thing enormously stupid." Plus the US military is quick to point out that the suiciders in Iraq are themselves not Iraqis but furriners.

To: epicure who wrote (168535)	8/9/2005 7:41:05 PM
From: Keith Feral	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Actually, nobody has a right to impose their religious values on other people. The people of the ME deserve freedom from the oppressive religious leadership. However, if they democratically choose to dictate a new constitution that enforces religious law, nobody is going to stop them. It's really tough to determine what the people in the ME want since they have no freedom of speech. Really, they have absolutely no civil liberties at all. As long as they are comfortable living in total conformity, things are going to stay more or less the same. Once the Shi'a regroup their political leadership, they will return to their normal way of life. Tough to imagine after they have all been living under Sunni oppression for so long. Now, they will get to be oppressed by their OWN Shi'a clerics. In Islam, civil liberty basically revolves around the question of who is going to be your next daddy. If we had been smart, we would have invited France to pay for us to overthrow the British. Later, we could have conveniently thrown them out once they were no longer a valuable assistance. I doubt that American Protestants would have gone out and shot American Catholics on their way to work after the Brits had been driven off. I doubt that American Protestants would have sailed off to Catholic capitals around the world to shoot innocent Catholics in protest of France's support for the new leadership in the US. I really doubt the American Protestants would shoot innocent Protestants that worked with American Catholics. Of course, there was a time and a place when these kinds of inter Christian battles took place. Hopefully, the inter Muslim war in Iraq will be squashed soon so that the US can return the troops. I really don't think to much will change before we withdrawal a substantial amount of our troops. The jihadis will stay vigilant as long as they have to in order to save face. As soon as the new Constitution is in place, the Iraqi army crushes the resistance without the interference of the Western press, and the US can reduce their troops to a point where their presence is completely behind the scenes. I don't think the conflict will end as long as the US is involved because of the press. The insurgents are getting way too much attention from our liberal cynics. Once the Iraqis can completely operate on their own, there won't be any more US press travelling on strategic missions. They won't have access to the bombings and everything will get covered up behind the scenes. I won't be surprised to see the Iraqi troops round up all the outcasts, returning to a new regime of medieval repression.