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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (245555)8/9/2005 8:01:01 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574356
 
re: The gun debate always turns into a needs debate which is not the point of rights.

I agree. I certainly recognize, and don't minimize the pragmatic perspective (people shooting each other all the time). But I think the "rights" part trumps it.

re: We can't have Joe Sixpack building a portable nuke in his garage.
*****
Isn't that already illegal?


I don't know.

John

BTW, I've never owned a real gun (a couple of collectors items I dumped quickly).



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (245555)8/10/2005 2:10:23 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574356
 
The gun debate always turns into a needs debate which is not the point of rights.

I don't think so. I think the debate centers around whether society is better off if it is harder for its citizens to get guns or not. I'd say society is better off if its more difficult for its members to personally own guns. Screw what you think is your "right", society should just tell you its not your right, and what does that have to do with what you call "needs"?