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To: Grainne who wrote (107393)	8/10/2005 6:19:56 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 108807

you believe the Zionists had the right to forcibly remove a settled people from their lands and confiscate them First of all, no Palestinians were removed from their land prior to the war in 1948. And I believe none have been since - for example, after the 1967 war Israeli troops stopped Palestinians from leaving the just conquered West Bank so as not to make any more refugees. It is clear that most Palestinian refugees created in 1948 were not forcibly removed - I know some were particularly in the area between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem probably because they presented a strategic threat to the road to Jerusalem. But most were not forced out by Israel - in Galilee for example, where the Arabs outnumbered the Jews, only Muslim villagers left their homes - Christian and Druze did not. The Israelis have probably confiscated land left by the refugees however. Possibly in retaliation for the confiscated property of Israel's Sephardic Jewish population who lost everything when the Arabs deprived them of their citizenship and drove them from their homes. I don't care how long ago the Indians were defeated.. I presume you also don't care for intellectual consistency - which is why I brought up the subject of American Indians. I know Jewish individuals and groups have committed atrocities before - Deir Yassin, King David hotel bombing - aimed at the British occupation govt which used the hotel as their offices, etc. I suspect the list you printed sourced to Joe Vialls is propaganda - Vialls pushed conspiracy theories - he claimed the Pentagon electronically hijacked the WTC aircraft on 911, claimed "Wall Street" caused the Asian tsunami, etc. (See below) Whatever atrocities might have been committed do not nullify the overall movement to establish a Jewish state. In fact, I don't even think the more numerous Palestinian terror acts nullifies the Palestinian right to have a part of Palestine. Joe Vialls From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Joe Vialls has published a number of books and web sites outlining various conspiracy theories. Vialls' published books include Deadly Deception at Port Arthur, The Murder of Policewoman Yvonne Fletcher and Lockerbie and the Bombing of Pan Am 103. According to his website, he is a private investigator. Joe Vialls is known for his book based on the Port Arthur Massacre (ref: [1], [2]), which has been linked with National Rifle Association gun lobby groups suggesting that there was a cover up by the John Howard government in order to "take guns from their rightful owners" (ref: [3], [4]). Vialls has self-pulished many shorter articles, including Did New York Orchestrate The Asian Tsunami?, subtitled "With Afghanistan and Iraq already lost, the Wall Street bankers were all desperately looking for other ways to control our world, when suddenly and very conveniently, the Sumatran Trench exploded." Other titles include Russia Ready to Vaporize the Jewish State, Australian Government Agents Bomb Sydney, and Smoking Helps Protect Against Lung Cancer. Joe Vialls passed away on July 17, 2005, after a long illness. [5] en.wikipedia.org Also see: Home Run" Used To Electronically Hijack World Trade Center Aircraft "Home Run" Electronically Hijacking the World Trade Center Attack Aircraft Copyright Joe Vialls, October 2001 www.geocities.com/mknemesis/homerun.html There's plenty more.