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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (18739)8/10/2005 6:21:43 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 20773
 
Monitor Iran's centrifuges, and its honor
The Daily Star Middle East | Rami G. Khouri

Beirut

From the "worth noting" department: In the past three weeks, the leaders of Iraq, Syria and Hizbullah have made official visits to Tehran, at a time when Iran is locked in an important diplomatic negotiation with the U.S. and Europe over its nuclear program. This is just one indicator that Iran - rather than Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, or Israel-Palestine - may be emerging as the center of gravity for broad ideological trends and populist emotions in this region, especially in terms of relations with the U.S. and other Western powers.

When its different strands are separated, the tug-of-war with the West over Iran's nuclear industry seems to contain three core issues. The first is Iran's Byzantine-style negotiating manner that is anchored in ancient statecraft and several recent centuries of unsatisfactory relations with American, European and Russian powers. The second is the American-driven pattern of arrogance, accusations and double standards vis-a-vis Arab and Islamic states that Iran challenges head-on, especially since the U.S. now seems slightly befuddled in Iraq. The third is the worldwide implication for the fate of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) if Iran develops a full fuel cycle for its nuclear industry.

Iran, Syria and Hizbullah have emerged in the past few years - wisely or not - as the principal parties defying American power in this region. This has been, in part, a response to Washington's accusations against them in the fields of terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, nuclear proliferation, and their policies in Lebanon and Palestine-Israel. Their anti-American defiance tends to be primarily rhetorical and political, because none of them is stupid enough to challenge the U.S. militarily, except possibly indirectly in Iraq.

Washington has used both the Iraq and Lebanon situations as instruments to pressure and mildly threaten Syria, with some success. Because Iraq is an evolving situation, local powers like Syria and Iran - with memories of how to engage foreign armies going back several millennia - are carefully calibrating their policies in view of America's combined vulnerabilities, determination, power and perplexity in Iraq. Both leaderships have a track record of engaging, delaying, challenging, waiting and finally consummating deals with external powers that threaten them, as they do today with the U.S. and the European Union.

The very technical issue of implementing the NPT has become deeply entangled with the highly emotional and much bigger issue of who sets the rules in the Middle East. This is now a battle over honor as much as it is about centrifuges. Acknowledging these two parallel dimensions of the dispute, while meeting the legitimate needs of all parties, are the keys to a win-win resolution that is acceptable to all.

For Iran and others in this region, an overriding foreign policy priority is the need to affirm a sense of true sovereignty and national self-assertion, and to be treated equally with other countries. For Tehran this is very much about what it means to be an independent and sovereign state, and to be treated according to the same global laws and rules as, say, Israel, Pakistan and India, whose nuclear industries and arms seem peculiarly exempt from Washington's proliferation worries.

Iran has been careful to work with International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors and monitoring systems while insisting on its right to operate a full nuclear fuel cycle and its plans to use such fuel for the peaceful production of energy. Washington insists it will prevent Iran from developing a full nuclear fuel cycle or weapons, and Iran in turn replies with defiance. The U.S. and the EU threaten to take Iran to the UN Security Council, but Iran seems prepared to call their bluff, perhaps confident that China and Russia would veto any sanctions resolutions, or perhaps aware that the Iraq-entangled U.S. only has limited military options with Iran.

The importance of the European negotiations with Iran is that they potentially offer a valuable middle ground where the legitimate interests of all parties can be reconciled. The October 2003 and November 2004 European-Iranian agreements did result in several important breakthroughs: a temporary suspension of Iranian nuclear fuel processing, uncovering more information about Iran's nuclear facilities and activities; greater American and Russian diplomatic engagement behind the scenes; and important Euro-American offers to Iran in the fields of nuclear energy, technology, trade, political ties and security.

It should be clear by now that Iran, Syria, Hizbullah and others who share their defiant attitude to the U.S. reflect important sentiments that probably define a majority of people in the Middle East. Perhaps the core sentiment is that people are fed up with being treated like colonial subjects who must calibrate their behavior to suit the interests of the Americans, the British, the French and the Israelis, and who feel they are subjected to discriminatory behavior in the field of nuclear energy or implementing UN resolutions.

The Iran nuclear issue now brings together hot emotional sentiments and cold national interests that have swirled in the region for decades. Solving the matter peacefully probably requires an acknowledgement that this is as much about Iran's nuclear ambitions and sovereign rights as it is about the United States projecting its power and trying to set rules in the Middle East and around the world. Reconciling these two sets of concerns will be difficult, but not impossible, if the operative impulse for such an attempt is anchored in humility and the rule of law, rather than revenge and racist double-standards on the part of all concerned.

Rami G. Khouri writes a regular column for The Daily Star.

dailystar.com.lb



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (18739)8/10/2005 8:04:10 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 20773
 
Peikoff, same pragmatic ideas as the Straussians

In a New York Times advertisement on September 20, 2001, Peikoff and the Ayn Rand Institute advocated attacking Iran "regardless of the suffering and death this will bring to countless innocents caught in the line of fire" including the use of nuclear weapons (those pragmatic ideological true ideas have been re-introduced once again??).

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Leonard Peikoff (born in Winnipeg, Manitoba in 1933) is an Objectivist philosopher. He was a friend of Ayn Rand since 1951 and became heir to her estate after she died in 1982. In 1985 he founded the Ayn Rand Institute. Before her death, Rand said that Peikoff knows and understands her philosophy better than anyone else.

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en.wikipedia.org

The funny thing is that Ayn Rand got really objectively sexually individually liberated, while Leo Strauss went the opposite (moral?) way.
(Ayn Rand was obviously inspired by the, always independent finnish small-farmer daughters, except in sorting out all the blessed children, plus their true property rights)

Well, she was a woman (with no children), he was man, when women were about to the right to vote..??

However, both were strong believers in the high-IQ genius elite, the great Hero saving (and leading)the (those) ignorant masses, as well as great good and great evil??

I think Napoleon too, in his splendid uniform, tight trousers, riding his great white horse (scratching his belly, his officer-great-hat 90 degree wrong and using a donkey outside of those great Hero-portraits) might have inspired both??

Both also became cult-figures for their true believers, deciphering every word they ever might have written or uttered..

PS That Peikoff C-SPAN thing is really 1700-1800s universal Genius-Hero funny.

rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/amw/amw_051202.rm

Unluckily C-SPAN does not like to make simple, clickable http-links available anymore.
What is worse, even if one can find them, their server does not anymore support picking some especially funny seconds-minutes from, as in this case, a two hour funny thing.

Note-note, those blessed village idiots should obviously have their proportional representation and seats in any congress, where there already is a viable moderate centrist party.

That is, they will be able to speak, both freely and officially, but not to swing a two-party system.

If things get really tough, both the two major right-left parties plus that centrist moderate party still have the possibility to unite.

Even with a weak 20-20-20% left-center-right distribution, almost 40% of all kind of village idiots can be something to just enjoy. (that is, 60-40% proportional representation)




To: Sun Tzu who wrote (18739)8/10/2005 8:22:56 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Respond to of 20773
 
Why does Studs Terkel say that Ayn Rand was a clown-figure??
en.wikipedia.org
rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/amw/amw_051202.rm?start=00:39:00.0

I think she was a perfectly normal result of Petersburg-Leningrad as a neighbor to Estonia and Finland, dreaming of a genius Hero on a White Horse, and then finding a true two-party system.

Although Alan Greenspan is said to "have known her", where was Rummy then??

Why does she always mix up private property and sexual rights, of the children??

rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/amw/amw_051202.rm?start=00:42:26.0
(copy-paste into any realvideoplayer)

Ouch, luckily a very difficult cult link.. frustrated puberty, plus the rest..

Leo Strauss must have somewhat agreed, but gone berserk, sexually and morally..

PS Ayn Rand did only sometimes go for an exploding Hero-ego, she also liked the younger mates of her youngest followers.

Where was Rummy?
(she loved and was inspired by skyscrapers, maybe much like Been Laiden