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To: epicure who wrote (168647)	8/10/2005 11:22:14 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The truth of the matter is that Bush has made the world a safer place. In future decades, no president will dare to launch a preventive war again, or bully other nations with such a threat. And this will make the world safer for all.

To: epicure who wrote (168647)	8/11/2005 10:00:12 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

and yet no one thought that in serbia when clinton did the same thing. I think it has to do more with degree of difficulty. Both wars were won easily enough but iraq led to and insurrection and sunni terrorism. Serbia didnt. I guess we should have figured that out in advance. This aint easy stuff you know. What if we intervened in sudan for human rights reasons and found ourselves in the midst of a civil war or burundi/ruanda back in the day. Many folks against iraq would have been for the two just mentioned but how would they react if 2000 americans were to die or civilians were killed as collateral damage in protecting our troops???

To: epicure who wrote (168647)	8/11/2005 10:26:30 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

SMEARING THE MOM OF A SOLDIER Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2005-08-11 10:16. afterdowningstreet.org Posted on Thu, Aug. 11, 2005 Philadelphia Daily News HOW THE RIGHT ATTACKS EVEN THE GRIEVING AS PRESIDENT BUSH vacations in his Crawford, Texas, ranch, sitting just outside is the American Public. In this case the American Public is Cindy Sheehan, a 48-year-old mother who lost her son Casey in the war in Iraq. Casey, a soldier and mechanic in the Army, was one of eight soldiers killed in a firefight in Baghdad last year. Cindy Sheehan sits in a beach chair outside the Crawford ranch, hoping and waiting for a meeting with President Bush. She wants to ask him one question: Why did she lose her son to a war that is becoming more senseless every day. "I want to ask the president, why did he kill my son?" Sheehan says. "He said my son died in a noble cause, and I want to ask him what that noble cause is." Sheehan has become an icon among antiwar activists - and a target of right-wing pundits who have little shame in twisting her words. Conservative blogger Matt Drudge took the first stab and tried to make Sheehan look like a flip-flopper by contrasting her current critical words about Bush with earlier statements she made to her hometown newspaper. Sheehan, along with other families who lost loved ones in Iraq, met with Bush last year and told The Reporter, the local paper in Vacaville, Calif., that she now knows that Bush is "sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis." Left out of the Sludge - oops, sorry - Drudge Report were the families' concerns about the war, which were also part of the story in The Reporter. The controversy generated so much attention, The Reporter's editor this week wrote a column to correct Drudge's - and the right-wing media's - cynical spin of the story. "We don't think there has been a dramatic turnaround," said Diane Barney. "Clearly, Cindy Sheehan's outrage was festering even then." We're not surprised by the smear tactics of the right in the case of Cindy Sheehan. Critics of this administration - from Richard Clarke to Joe Wilson - know the White House crowd are bullies and moral cowards and would attack a grieving mother if it suited their purpose. But how are they going to smear the American Public, which polls show is increasingly siding with Cindy Sheehan?