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Strategies & Market Trends : The Residential Real Estate Crash Index -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Vosilla who wrote (37560)	8/11/2005 11:12:48 AM
From: redfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

There has been a huge change since I was a young whippersnapper in how people deal with money. Used to be people were mostly concerned with "saving" while today the idea of having money in a simple interest-bearing account is abhorrent to people, you have to put it to work for you either buying risky stocks or speculating on risky real estate. Of course Greenspan is partly responsible for that as there is no safe way to get a decent interest rate. People not only don't save but they risk money they don't even have and will never have. Money for nothing and your chicks for free. My depression-era parents have even changed their thinking, when they sold all their real estate they asked me what they should do with the cash ... I said it might be a good idea to let it sit a while in short-term paper but they didn't buy that, put half of it in the market.

To: John Vosilla who wrote (37560)	8/11/2005 11:21:20 AM
From: KM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Doesn't bother me at all because 5 years from now, I'll still have the money I made (ex living expenses) and "they" won't by and large. But I don't do the buy breakout thing (except to fade them for quick bucks and out) because there's a terrorism discount in the stock market. I'm more a bottom feeder looking for market inefficiencies (for long term stuff) and scalping thick stocks for daily bread.

To: John Vosilla who wrote (37560)	8/11/2005 11:36:07 AM
From: Moominoid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Last 2-3 years have been great in the stock market. 40% returns if you are invested right. But now it gets harder agin. But I suspect the housing market isn't going to be any easier.

To: John Vosilla who wrote (37560)	8/11/2005 11:46:58 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Re: It has to be frustrating for smart people who believe in the stock market and their particular niche to be handily beaten by a bunch of idiots riding the housing bubble of late. It is. What is the point of researching and taking on risk when you can simply buy a lot and be almost guaranteed a handsome return with absolutely no research needed.

To: John Vosilla who wrote (37560)	8/11/2005 11:51:33 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Re: The stock market is a major reason for the housing bubble. I saw a graph several years ago which showed the exact opposite of this. Namely, that real estate and stock market cycles are by and large inversely related.

To: John Vosilla who wrote (37560)	8/11/2005 11:52:23 AM
From: shades	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Mr. Phil Grandie on his wednesday show said stocks over any 20 year period have always beat real estate over any 20 year period - now I don't know if this is true or not. He said thier liquidity was what made them superior to real estate.

To: John Vosilla who wrote (37560)	8/11/2005 3:58:51 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

The dirty little secret few understand is you don't need a housing bubble for your RE investments to handily outperform almost any stock market investor. please, please, please.... you do not have to advertise it.... is it dirty to learn and know where to place your capital in the proper RE? A= nooooooooooooooooooooooo but.... shhhhhhh keep it quiet, let the herds trample on the houses the sheeple need illusions (just like the imaginary friends too) -g