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To: TobagoJack who wrote (67287)	8/12/2005 2:59:48 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

Shades/TJ: GM put Hummers there because S.Africa is a major exporter of military hardware. It makes sense bundled this vehicle with the production and sales of military equipment.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (67287)	8/12/2005 3:17:16 AM
From: shades	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

General you have great insight, always much appreciated. Now you have said you would buy an island in the future perhaps. I watched this movie called water world, lots of little islands. It also is in the same vein as the postman, or mad max with mel gibson or many other apocalypse movies. Now I try to imagine I was like the Mariner - and I had a young healthy body, and this boat maybe, and I run across some folks on an island, and one had this shiny metal, and one had this tomato plant, and another had some water, and another had a pear. Elroy and others have tried to drive into me why I must choose the shiny metal, and I just can't ever get my head around it - I am probably gonna want the pear - scale this up to nation states - I really won't care much for a nation that makes shiny metal like say south africa compared to a nation that makes pears like maybe say brazil. I feel if shiny metal really mattered bush and friends would be building military bases near those mines in africa and sending navy to patrol over there, but instead I read bush and friends trying to build bases near black gold, not yellow gold and send the navy around shipping lanes of black gold - not yellow gold. You have to be one of the nicest people on SI and I know you sincerely are trying to help when you say shiny metal is a good thing. I just can't relate and I am trying so hard and I really need your help to understand how you came to the conclusion through your life experiences that shiny metal was so very important. Now I am a us congressman, and I just denied my chinese friends access to a pittance of oil for thier green paper, now a few years later they come back with shiny metal to trade for black gold - why should I trade ANYTHING - even platinum metal for black gold? I just don't get it. Why would I buy south african shiny metal when I could buy black liquid? Now while the asians are trying to give me thier shiny metal for the black liquid, el mat comes up on his cart full of pears and I am getting kinda hungry, and I say how about some liquid for some pears el mat - liquid he can use in a machine so that he does not have to break his back getting more pears - where does shiny metal come into this? He thinks the shiny metal is pretty, and his wife may like it, but my liquid saves his back and he already has a slipped disc. I foresee me and el mat sharing liquid and pears and those silly guys with shiny metal steaming mad that no one is taking it. I recently watched a lot of Jet Li's early movies on the arts channel, and they were great martial arts action flicks - and it seems to me in none of those movies did anyone care about shiny metal - it was about learning how to beat up folks, make your master proud of his teaching, or saving the damsel in distress - what is the deal?? My art friend made me go watch HERO with him - whoa - no where were these guys wanting shiny metal - so I am looking for the cultural references where you have got this "shiny metal" meme in your head? I used to watch battle of the planets cartoon as a kid - fine asian stuff - but again none of them were about shiny metal either - where did you learn this shiny metal belief from?? Did you watch some cartoons as a kid that taught you about shiny metal? Roger moore had a movie about south african shiny metal - did you see this as a teenager? In your 20's did your grandfather tell you some fable involving shiny metal or tell you some confuscious saying that really stuck with you? Coming up on Tobago did the locals use shiny metal for barter and this cemented the meme you have about its great importance? See only until recently from mogambo guru and a few folks here have I been told the meme of how important shiny metal is, before now I never had any person in my life make me think shiny metal was anything more than a dust collector sitting on my shelf in my coin collection. You were a blank mind, and somewhere along your life you have been sold a meme that shiny metal is very very important, but I don't think this is from personal experience, just maybe something you read in a book about a guy maybe in california where shiny metal was important a long time ago. I am very curious over your childhood and later adult life how this meme worked its way into your brain and has you buying shiny metal at every airport or coin shop you come too. Coconut does not know how special shiny metal is right now right? How is she going to learn shiny metal is very important or not very important? If you don't give her the book you read on the california miner or send her to 321gold to read the mogambo like i was sent - will she ever learn the importance of shiny metal? As a kid I guess I read or watched too much sci fi, i learned to explore and question things, and try to have fun with your star trek buds or interesting chats with your SI buds, I never really learned that I need lots of shiny metal. You have learned this though - undoubtedly you are going to pass this on to coconut I guess, I know you sincerely believe it, how old were you when you came to the realization that you desperately needed shiny metal as a hedge for civilization reset? Remember I gave my niece a gold bracelet - she went to the pawn shop and traded it for some brittney spears CD's - why hasn't she learned the value of shiny metal like you? Why after she works all week she takes her income and buys AandF shirts and jeans and buys 5 dollar lattes at starbucks and not shiny metal? Why does she take her toyota celica and buy black liquid for it and big 12 inch speakers and not shiny metal? I feel I have seriously failed her that so many great minds here like you and Elroy keep preaching the importance of shiny metal and she just keeps going blissfully through life without realizing its importance - how do I fix her failed education?