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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (37745)	8/14/2005 11:27:46 AM
From: GraceZ	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 306849

You really need to learn how to read: How does this: What I wrote>>The US manufactures 12 fold what it manufactured in 1945<<< get turned into this: claims the value of manufactured products produced by America has increased 12 fold since 1945 Read it a few times and maybe you'll actually understand what has been written. During this same time period, the population of the US has more than doubled. Fortunately we require only one million more manufacturing employees to produce just 14% more output. You can't possibly be this stupid to think that the US has only increased it's output of manufactured goods 14% since 1945. Go look at a modern factory man, get out, put on the hard hat, don the steel tip shoes and go look.

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (37745)	8/14/2005 11:48:06 AM
From: Les H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

[quote]Grace "Miss Information" Zaccardi claims the value of manufactured products produced by America has increased 12 fold since 1945. A typical Monetarist lie.[/quote] I would guess that most of that increase is due to the growth in the defense and aerospace industries and due to inflation. The cost of a new car in 1945 was around $ 2000, nearly the same as in 1900. Now, it's around $ 30,000. Here's a very interesting site that provides the cost of items as found in Morris County, New Jersey over the years: gti.net

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (37745)	8/14/2005 11:53:36 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 306849

even fast-food hamburger flippers and their output are now claimed to "manufacturing". The burger-flipping "manufacturers" are really just another manifestation of the Dell "manufacturers". Really, this is more like assembly. But the end product is different than what you started with, so the govt has to call it mfg. But there is little downstream benefit to the US economy with these sorts of value added products compared to when real manufacturing was here with autos, where every car sold distributed wealth all the way down to a machine tools manufacturer (also based on the US). I think the shock of the burger flipper mfg characterization is more common among people who really don't know how loose the definition of US manufacturing has become.